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Lowbears on the rise?

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Seven Koskanaiken
Shadow Legions.
SONS of BANE
#21 - 2013-05-14 11:37:14 UTC
NameWasTakenAlready wrote:
Abrazzar wrote:
Talking about gatecamps, how well does hopping 100km away with a microjumpdrive and then warping off work against gatecamps?


Disruptors don't block the microjump drive. If you can delay a scram for 10 seconds you can slip camps super easily with it. I actually need to try cloak + micro jump one of these days, as battleships are the only class of ship that can run into issues with cloak +MWD due to long align times on armor battleships. In theory the addition of the micro jump drive gave battleships a reliable way to slip gate camps. Lord knows every other class of ship has a way already. Which brings me back to my confusion. Cloak MWD is like 99.9% effective on any battle cruiser or smaller, so how do these camps still exist.


Welllll the other day I did the guristas arc and fitted a cloak to get out of null gatecamps, then got all the way back one jump from high sec and had my dramiel blown up because I forgot I fitted a cloak since I use them so little lol. It's only after I got the mail I realised I had it duuuh. So they just need someone like me to derp every so often to get kills I guess. I already installed the gila BPc before going back thank god, but lost my t shirts. Sad
Tom Gerard
Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan
#22 - 2013-05-14 11:47:51 UTC
on the Rise?

*sunglasses*

The CCP Rise

Now with 100% less Troll.

darmwand
Stay Frosty.
A Band Apart.
#23 - 2013-05-14 12:16:36 UTC
One thing to keep in mind is that what may look like a gate camp to you might very well just be a roaming gang waiting to jump to the next system.

"The pen is mightier than the sword if the sword is very short, and the pen is very sharp."

CCP Solomon
C C P
C C P Alliance
#24 - 2013-05-14 12:48:02 UTC

  • Low sec population on the increase.
  • Inexperienced pvp'ers trying out low sec gameplay.
  • Said inexperienced players using numbers for safety while they learn the ropes.
  • People still finding a reason to moan.


Nothing to see here, move along.

CCP Solomon | Technical Producer | EVE Online @RoryAbbott

Muad 'dib
State War Academy
Caldari State
#25 - 2013-05-14 12:54:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Muad 'dib
Its not profitable for them most of the time, but its easy to camp rather than to find people in belts.

Yeah its hardly impressive pvp but it gets them out of high sec and that cant be a bad thing.

Also a lot more crappy gate and station camps for old timers to crush!!

edit: damnit,. pretty much what CCP StopCopyingMe said

Cosmic signature detected. . . . http://i.imgur.com/Z7NfIS6.jpg I got 99 likes, and this post aint one.

I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
#26 - 2013-05-14 13:00:03 UTC
Expect even more OP when Odyssey comes out. People looking to make a quick ISK off those security tags that are coming in the expansion.
Famine Aligher'ri
Sheriff.
Caldari Tactical Operations Command
#27 - 2013-05-14 13:55:06 UTC
Dear CCP:

Please keep the targets coming.


All my love,

XXX

Famine Aligher'ri - Original Solo Pirate

Former The Pirate Syndicate Member

Former D.e.V.i.a.n.c.e member

Former Burn Eden member

Former BioMass Cartel member

Mr Morita
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#28 - 2013-05-14 14:55:16 UTC
It's really just because all lowsec PVP'ers are bad.
Brujo Loco
Brujeria Teologica
#29 - 2013-05-14 15:11:56 UTC
Riot Girl wrote:
Well you're in an NPC corp so that's a good start. You could probably put some rat resistances info in your bio and maybe fly a Gnosis. I think that would be enough to encourage them to shoot you.


I ... wow .. this made me snort harder than free coke .... LOL!

Can I put this in my bio amongst my local/corp smacktalk and highest hit to static mission spawned structure?

Inner Sayings of BrujoLoco: http://eve-files.com/sig/brujoloco

Brujo Loco
Brujeria Teologica
#30 - 2013-05-14 15:19:21 UTC
Seven Koskanaiken wrote:
For people who camp the same gate day in day out, just add them to your contact list and see if they are online before jumping that gate. There's a guy who has done nothing but camp the same gate in Eszur for 3 years.


... wow .. well, I guess that´s the low sec version of mission running spammers 23/7

Inner Sayings of BrujoLoco: http://eve-files.com/sig/brujoloco

Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#31 - 2013-05-14 15:28:21 UTC
Brujo Loco wrote:
Can I put this in my bio

Sure, if you want.
Mathrin
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#32 - 2013-05-14 17:05:00 UTC
CCP Solomon wrote:

  • Low sec population on the increase.
  • Inexperienced pvp'ers trying out low sec gameplay.
  • Said inexperienced players using numbers for safety while they learn the ropes.
  • People still finding a reason to moan.


Nothing to see here, move along.


Plus one like for you good sir....
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#33 - 2013-05-14 17:16:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Bienator II
CCP Solomon wrote:

  • Low sec population on the increase.
  • Inexperienced pvp'ers trying out low sec gameplay.
  • Said inexperienced players using numbers for safety while they learn the ropes.
  • People still finding a reason to moan.


Nothing to see here, move along.


with population you mean alts in stabbed T1 frigs and cloaks or the 10% who are not alts in stabbed T1 ships and cloaks?

how to fix eve: 1) remove ECM 2) rename dampeners to ECM 3) add new anti-drone ewar for caldari 4) give offgrid boosters ongrid combat value

Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2013-05-14 17:17:35 UTC
I fail to understand how you are classifying those who are gatecamping all the time as "bears" Bad PVP'rs maybe?
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#35 - 2013-05-14 17:51:35 UTC
A general rule of lowsec is that the only acceptable increase in population is that of targets, not those looking for targets.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Some Rando
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#36 - 2013-05-14 18:03:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Some Rando
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
A general rule of lowsec is that the only acceptable increase in population is that of targets who do not fit their T1 ships with cloaks & MWDs or warp stabs, or anything else that might help them do what they want without getting caught, not those looking for targets.

FTFY

E: Also, no cloaky fags farming in cov ops either because low-sec is only for industrials idiotically blundering into gate camps and gate campers.

CCP has no sense of humour.

War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#37 - 2013-05-14 18:09:13 UTC
Bit of a derpy thread, but I'll straighten out the misinformation at least.

Activate MJD, cloak, reappear 100km away *does* work. You don't even need the tech 2 cloak for it since there's no reliance on being at 75% speed to warp.

Enjoy :)

I don't judge people by their race, religion, color, size, age, gender, or ethnicity. I judge them by their grammar, spelling, syntax, punctuation, clarity of expression, and logical consistency.

Kangaax
Money in da bank
#38 - 2013-05-14 18:24:32 UTC
NameWasTakenAlready wrote:
Abrazzar wrote:
Talking about gatecamps, how well does hopping 100km away with a microjumpdrive and then warping off work against gatecamps?


Disruptors don't block the microjump drive. If you can delay a scram for 10 seconds you can slip camps super easily with it. I actually need to try cloak + micro jump one of these days, as battleships are the only class of ship that can run into issues with cloak +MWD due to long align times on armor battleships. In theory the addition of the micro jump drive gave battleships a reliable way to slip gate camps. Lord knows every other class of ship has a way already. Which brings me back to my confusion. Cloak MWD is like 99.9% effective on any battle cruiser or smaller, so how do these camps still exist.


Just quoting to add that orcas have the same issue as battleships regarding cloak/MWD. I'm almost sad i can't fit a MJD on it, but it wouldn't have the grid anyway
Corey Fumimasa
CFM Salvage
#39 - 2013-05-14 18:38:39 UTC
Kangaax wrote:


Just quoting to add that orcas have the same issue as battleships regarding cloak/MWD. I'm almost sad i can't fit a MJD on it, but it wouldn't have the grid anyway


I have heard that an Orca can pull off the cloak mwd trick with only a very short target window on the end. Its something I would like to try out, but orca training/buying is really not on my todo list.

Make yours as nimble as possible and fit the biggest mwd you can and try the cloak trick. If you need someone to try and lock you convo me, it is an experiment that I have wanted to do for quite sometime.
Corey Fumimasa
CFM Salvage
#40 - 2013-05-14 18:43:10 UTC
War Kitten wrote:
Bit of a derpy thread, but I'll straighten out the misinformation at least.

Activate MJD, cloak, reappear 100km away *does* work. You don't even need the tech 2 cloak for it since there's no reliance on being at 75% speed to warp.

Enjoy :)

You must walk right through gate camps with that set up! You should run Gonditsa.
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