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New dev blog: Ship-troduction: The Amarr Oracle

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Pinky Denmark
The Cursed Navy
#121 - 2011-11-03 12:18:06 UTC
First of all:
Caldari Tier 3 Battlecruiser HAS to be a Hybrid ship for several reasons. Cool A shame it has the shape of a Megathron, however we might as well show the gallente scum how it's done...

Second:
If not all the battlecruisers gets it I'd imagine CCP using the Marauder method to enable the Oracle firing large lasers without having to buff their capacitor beyond sane capacity.

All ships looking fine except the excessive amount of engines on the Oracle. I can't however wait to fly those babies if the large guns can track what I'm aiming at. I wonder if they get a role bonus for tracking?

My only concern is how they will fit in the role of massive dps and little tank when the tier 2 BC's (like hurricane) are already capable of delivering near equal dps to many battleships while also being able to focus that dps on smaller ships.

Pinky.
Hedio Koajema
Naval Defence Academy
Naval Defence Alliance
#122 - 2011-11-03 12:18:09 UTC
OMG LAZOR PEW PEW!!!!

Thats my 10 pence
Debora Tsung
Perkone
Caldari State
#123 - 2011-11-03 12:25:56 UTC
Hedio Koajema wrote:
OMG LAZOR PEW PEW!!!!

Thats my 10 pence


Lazor Razor pwns the day... and wins a beauty contest, free pink paint and Hello Kitty air brush stenzils available in Jita now.

Stupidity should be a bannable offense.

Fighting back is more fun than not.

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B'atou
RATS Corp
#124 - 2011-11-03 12:35:24 UTC
me likes it!!!!!

Looks even better than the harbinger and a real bad ass amarr ship!

Every winner needs a looser, only idiots need a leader!
Hedio Koajema
Naval Defence Academy
Naval Defence Alliance
#125 - 2011-11-03 12:39:42 UTC
Debora Tsung wrote:
Hedio Koajema wrote:
OMG LAZOR PEW PEW!!!!

Thats my 10 pence


Lazor Razor pwns the day... and wins a beauty contest, free pink paint and Hello Kitty air brush stenzils available in Jita now.


Cant wait now hello kitty face on the front with my hotdogs cooking on the back of my big pink ship oh and the bit on the side that sticks out is for the optional cocco chanell hand bag available at the NEX for 10000000 ARUM
Debora Tsung
Perkone
Caldari State
#126 - 2011-11-03 12:42:43 UTC
Hedio Koajema wrote:
Cant wait now hello kitty face on the front with my hotdogs cooking on the back of my big pink ship oh and the bit on the side that sticks out is for the optional cocco chanell hand bag available at the NEX for 10000000 ARUM

Can't wait, the pure awesome will blow my mind. Big smile

Stupidity should be a bannable offense.

Fighting back is more fun than not.

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DarkTemplarCrimsonWolf
The Smokehouse
#127 - 2011-11-03 13:59:19 UTC
First there was the Geddon... now there is the Oracle... is there any doubt what will happen this February ?
Buzzmong
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#128 - 2011-11-03 14:09:29 UTC
DarkTemplarCrimsonWolf wrote:
is there any doubt what will happen this February ?

Valentine's day?
Fujiko MaXjolt
ACME HARDWARE
Exxitium
#129 - 2011-11-03 14:38:21 UTC
Tippia wrote:
DaDutchDude wrote:
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Therefor, it wins!
It also means that only the Caldari are now lacking a vertical ship. Blatant bias on CCP's part! Evil

Buff Caldari!


So....
Heron
Griffin
... ?
Come again ?
E man Industries
SeaChell Productions
#130 - 2011-11-03 14:40:20 UTC
bug anyone else that it has lots of thrusters in the top and none at the bottom so at full thrust the thing wouldnot be able to fly straight?

Please add a bottom thruster.
Elistea
BLUE Regiment.
#131 - 2011-11-03 14:58:48 UTC
Rly nice piece of work this ship!
Also like the name - fits Amarr BC name tree: Prophecy --> Harbinger --> Oracle

Also hope for some new BS in not so distant future. Id love to finaly see some T2 PVP BS.

We alrdy have Armageddon, Apocalypse, Abaddon so why not Cataclysm:)
Elaine Shandrate
Luna Decrescentia Celeris
#132 - 2011-11-03 15:24:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Elaine Shandrate
Elistea wrote:
Rly nice piece of work this ship!
Also like the name - fits Amarr BC name tree: Prophecy --> Harbinger --> Oracle

Also hope for some new BS in not so distant future. Id love to finaly see some T2 PVP BS.

We alrdy have Armageddon, Apocalypse, Abaddon so why not Cataclysm:)



What was the destroyer's name again?
Elistea
BLUE Regiment.
#133 - 2011-11-03 15:39:32 UTC
Elaine Shandrate wrote:
Elistea wrote:
Rly nice piece of work this ship!
Also like the name - fits Amarr BC name tree: Prophecy --> Harbinger --> Oracle

Also hope for some new BS in not so distant future. Id love to finaly see some T2 PVP BS.

We alrdy have Armageddon, Apocalypse, Abaddon so why not Cataclysm:)



What was the destroyer's name again?


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Niko Lorenzio
United Eve Directorate
#134 - 2011-11-03 16:42:20 UTC
Not the ship I voted for in the contest but def a fresh look for the amarr and I for one can't wait to fly one :)

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Brego Tralowski
Tralowski Independent Traders.
#135 - 2011-11-03 16:56:13 UTC
Really looking forward to flying this and causing a little mayhem. Also think I just found my personal flagship - thanks CCP - here's to another years great gaming and fun times Blink

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Erim Solfara
House of Solfara
#136 - 2011-11-03 16:58:59 UTC
Misanth wrote:
Erim Solfara wrote:
Is no-one else with me on the 'unbalanced thrusters make ships look stupid' issue? Thrusters need to act on the bulk of the ship, it's not hard to design these things so they at least look like they'd fly in a straight line rather than spinning in circles Cry


I'm not with you. There's so many things in ship design that is not logical for a variety of reasons. It's better the ship look sexy as hell. And then again, we have alot of people whining about non-symmetrical ships too. I love non-symmetrical ships. It's like they usually say about fantasy MMO's and men playing female characters: "If I'm going to spend alot of time watching this character, it might as well have a good looking ass".


No, I'm sorry but violating child-level physics is not one of the things we just ignore for the sake of questionable aesthetic improvements. If you push a block of wood along a table at one end, you don't expect it to do anything other than spin, every single person alive over 6 years old understands this. Asymmetric ships are fine, as long as the thrusters are based where they should vaguely be (all ships are asymmetric along at least one axis). The Kestrel is a reasonable example of this, where there is a large bulk off centre, it has it's own thruster to even things out.

Your argument for ignoring the physics is 'it might as well look good'. The original render for the Mentor only has two, maybe three thrusters, and it looks GREAT. Adding all those extra ones to the top half is going to make it look ******* ridiculously when you're flying it, remember engine trails are coming back, you're not going to see anything other than a blue-white bloomtacular mess if you look at the ship from any angle 'behind' it. Ditch the bloody top thrusters.

Debora Tsung wrote:
Erim Solfara wrote:
Is no-one else with me on the 'unbalanced thrusters make ships look stupid' issue? Thrusters need to act on the bulk of the ship, it's not hard to design these things so they at least look like they'd fly in a straight line rather than spinning in circles Cry


I imagine, that the weight distribution of the ship was designed in such a way that it would work, after all we can't see all the funky, flashy parts and lights and machineries that make that nifty piece of faith enforcing space ship work.

EDIT: besides all those nice little thruster in the upper half could just be there to enable better ship spinning, or did You see any other maneuver thrusters? Cool


Maneuvering thrusters are generally omitted, I'd prefer it if they weren't, obviously, but it's standard practice in eve not to bother with them. If the extra thrusters on the Oracle were BELOW the centre point, I might be able to excuse it considering that ships orbit with their 'top' orientated into the target. The thrusters would be in the right place to make it orbit like they actually do then, as they are, they'd work AGAINST it, which is even more absurd than just pretending we don't need maneuvering thrusters.


E man Industries wrote:
bug anyone else that it has lots of thrusters in the top and none at the bottom so at full thrust the thing wouldnot be able to fly straight?

Please add a bottom thruster.


Yes, immensely, but I'm in favour of removing the superfluous thrusters rather than adding MOAR to it, it looks like it'll be a mess with the engine trails and whatnot already, adding more doesn't seem like the solution to me.
Thelron
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#137 - 2011-11-03 17:45:07 UTC
/agree with "wtfphysics" group, apart from that it looks GREAT but the engines do bug me.

As for the caldari thread-jack... the BC in anticipated torp-mode sounds like it could be a return to some of the old "Surprise! Have some death!" tricks cruisers used to be able to pull with the original missile systems (oh, trying to kite me? Have fun running away from some cruise missiles. Oh, now you're trying to jam me? Have FoF Cruises, ******!). "highly effective" or not, should still be much fun.
Xindi Kraid
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#138 - 2011-11-03 18:50:26 UTC
Raid'En wrote:
i only see 4 turrets hardpoints, strange.

Could be like the Nightmare :+100% to large energy turret damage
Pharuan
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#139 - 2011-11-03 20:16:10 UTC
Elistea wrote:
Rly nice piece of work this ship!
Also like the name - fits Amarr BC name tree: Prophecy --> Harbinger --> Oracle

Also hope for some new BS in not so distant future. Id love to finaly see some T2 PVP BS.

We alrdy have Armageddon, Apocalypse, Abaddon so why not Cataclysm:)




But it doesn't start with the letter A.
Holy Cheater
Monks of War
#140 - 2011-11-03 21:15:55 UTC
More vertical ships, huh? Shocked