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CCP, how about raising player limit in Jita???
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Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
#1 - 2013-05-12 16:26:49 UTC
for weeks we have the issue we cant login in jita especially on weekends.
Why dont you raise the player limit or alternatively ban all jita spammer bots so regular players can login and play?
Ruze
Next Stage Initiative
#2 - 2013-05-12 16:41:25 UTC
Bots and spammers are a problem. Support +1.

Course, you could also take your trade toanother system. That also would help alleviate the issue in a more natural way.

If you're driven to threaten others with harm or violence because of what they do in game, you can't separate fantasy from reality. That "griefer/thief" is probably more sane than you are. How screwed up is that?
Danni stark
#3 - 2013-05-12 16:49:23 UTC
remove jita local.

watch 75% of the jita population vanish when they can't spam local.

Ice Mining Skill Plan.
Hrothgar Nilsson
#4 - 2013-05-12 17:47:47 UTC
I think it'd be neat if a 50,000 ISK CPSA were charged per message in Jita local.

Even at just one message every 4.9 seconds, it'd be an ISK sink of close to a billion per day.

I've... seen things you people wouldn't believe...

Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion...
Ines Tegator
Serious Business Inc. Ltd. LLC. etc.
#5 - 2013-05-12 17:49:31 UTC
Yeah, getting rid of the spambots will be better. Jita is already on a dedicated server node, and a heavily beefed up one at that. Two years ago the population cap was about 1500; a year before that, 1200. Right now it's somewhat above 2k. The limiting factor is server power, and that's been massively improved already. Time to take out the trash.

Overhaul Dscan!
Commander Ted
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#6 - 2013-05-12 17:54:38 UTC
Fine, buy them a military grade supercomputer node for them and consider it done.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=174097 Separate all 4 empires in eve with lowsec.
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#7 - 2013-05-12 18:05:39 UTC
Everybody in entering Jita gets a number. When the system is full, the one with the lowest number gets kicked to make room for the newcomer. No more hugging the station and no more waiting due to congestion.

Sovereignty and Population

New Mining Mechanics
Ines Tegator
Serious Business Inc. Ltd. LLC. etc.
#8 - 2013-05-12 19:18:50 UTC
Commander Ted wrote:
Fine, buy them a military grade supercomputer node for them and consider it done.

They've got one. EVE uses multiple servers running separate nodes, integrated through a SSD-RAID database. It's the most powerful gaming computer on the planet, and I believe the largest single network cluster as well (been a long time since I say that last one confirmed though). They had a devblog a while back about their reinforced server node they use for fleet fights- it was some kind of liquid cooled monstrosity that they can't even release the specs on, as a condition for being allowed to use it. Sadly that devblog has been deleted and I can't find a copy of it.

http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Tranquility

Overhaul Dscan!
Tiberu Stundrif
Nifty Idustries
Pandemic Horde
#9 - 2013-05-12 19:29:12 UTC
Supported 100%
Maximus Aerelius
PROPHET OF ENIGMA
#10 - 2013-05-12 19:43:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Maximus Aerelius
This is, by far, the best "Fix Jita" thread I've read and the suggestion is a good one. I'm not so sure about charging for Local though as this would inhibit the inhabitants communicating (not that you can talk in Jita but you know).

+1 from me for

Quote:
ban all jita spammer bots so regular players can login and play?


Not that I trade in Jita but I've been, I've queued, I've given up What?

[b]Fast Character Switching "XP Stylee" Undocking - More Routes Out of Station[/b] Here's my tear jar > |_| < Fill 'er up!
Maximus Aerelius
PROPHET OF ENIGMA
#11 - 2013-05-12 19:45:45 UTC
Ines Tegator wrote:
... liquid cooled monstrosity that they can't even release the specs on, as a condition for being allowed to use it.


This I didn't know Shocked

[b]Fast Character Switching "XP Stylee" Undocking - More Routes Out of Station[/b] Here's my tear jar > |_| < Fill 'er up!
Commander Ted
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#12 - 2013-05-12 19:53:43 UTC
Ines Tegator wrote:

They've got one. EVE uses multiple servers running separate nodes, integrated through a SSD-RAID database. It's the most powerful gaming computer on the planet, and I believe the largest single network cluster as well (been a long time since I say that last one confirmed though). They had a devblog a while back about their reinforced server node they use for fleet fights- it was some kind of liquid cooled monstrosity that they can't even release the specs on, as a condition for being allowed to use it. Sadly that devblog has been deleted and I can't find a copy of it.

http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Tranquility


The joke flew over your head, I know this. I meant buy them a better one.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=174097 Separate all 4 empires in eve with lowsec.
Linkxsc162534
State War Academy
Caldari State
#13 - 2013-05-13 12:05:56 UTC
I just wonder. If CCP HQ was a POS, how much TF would their computer be generating? How much of that would be taken up by Jita?
Galmas
13.
Enigma Project
#14 - 2013-05-13 12:56:56 UTC
Danni stark wrote:
remove jita local.

watch 75% of the jita population vanish when they can't spam local.



Well, there it is again. Removing local would seriously solve another issue there. Totally unrelated to (classic space ship) pvp or cloaky scouts ruining carebear fun in null etc... still it would be another issue solved.

Come on Soundwave, push the button and get rid of it finally Big smile
De'Veldrin
Adversity.
Psychotic Tendencies.
#15 - 2013-05-13 16:20:52 UTC
The fact is, Chribba already has a nifty website that shows who the worst offenders are. The real question is why they haven't been perma-banned for misappropriating computer resources to the detriment of other players.

De'Veldrin's Corollary (to Malcanis' Law): Any idea that seeks to limit the ability of a large nullsec bloc to do something in the name of allowing more small groups into sov null will inevitably make it that much harder for small groups to enter sov null.
Daedalus II
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2013-05-13 16:30:20 UTC
The CSPA charge on local I think sounded like a good idea.

Another fun idea would be to add a voting system of sorts where whenever someone gets enough votes they get thrown out :D
Velicitia
XS Tech
#17 - 2013-05-13 16:46:20 UTC
Old Devblog about TQ -- http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/1677

Dev Blog about Tama Live Event (talking about the RF node) - http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/tama-dev-event-the-tech-side/

Some old press release (sorry, this one got ****** by the new layout) -- http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/press-releases/eve-online-8482-launches-largest-supercomputer-in-the-gaming-industry-running-on-ibm-server-technology/

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Xeros Black
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#18 - 2013-05-13 17:02:15 UTC
Their was a forum post about the idea of putting low sec space between the high sec empires. It would solve the congestion problem in jita without any artificial voting system or banning of spam bots.

Now i know everybody hates spammers but the fact that they exist prove that some people are stupid enough to believe them, removing spammers and scammers from eve would make eve easier and that i am opposed on.
Theia Matova
Dominance Theory
#19 - 2013-05-13 17:24:02 UTC
Honestly I do not see the reason to be in jita anyway there are several better working trade hubs that dont spam 2 scams every 10s. Jita local barely ever has any sensible discussion and 90% of the messages are one form of a scam. Which is especially bother some due to you cant effectively filter people and have the same filter on your alt or corp.

But hey there is easy solution remove concord for one day and let people nuke down the station. :p
Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
#20 - 2013-05-13 18:00:14 UTC
Remove some of the connections to Jita. CCP created the Jita issue, they need to end it.

CCP's Motto: If it isn't broken, break it. If it is broken, ignore it. Improving NPE / Dynamic New Eden
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