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"King of Low Sec" - Fly your flag over CCP HQ by blowing stuff up!

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Eram Fidard
Doomheim
#521 - 2013-05-12 15:42:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Eram Fidard
Oh hey thanks for the age check. I had no idea how old this alt was, that was very helpful of you.

Because nobody ever used a forum alt, ever.

The thing I find the funniest about all this is your sense of entitlement. You honestly think if you whine long and hard enough, CCP is going to change their decision for you. Remind you of any other stereotypically whiny social groups in eve? Hi-sec carebears?

edit: whatever else 'people' may think, they respect PL.

Poster is not to be held responsible for damages to keyboards and/or noses caused by hot beverages.
Dark Flare
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#522 - 2013-05-12 15:42:55 UTC
IamBeastx wrote:
Dark Flare wrote:
IamBeastx wrote:
Ramirez Dora wrote:
.........
my corpmates have a strong dislike for PL for various reasons v0v Since when did everyone have to get along.


I would point out that not initially dis-allowing CCP mails into the tally was a slight oversight in the planning stages


discounting 50b of kills is now a "slight oversight"

you heard it here first


Don't get so distracted over the number.

I can almost guarantee that any more events of this nature will have a more specific ruleset to deal with the devspawned items that are normally not so easily caught and destroyed or even seen ingame.


I hope you're right, but I don't really have that much faith Lol

It's just a shame that CCP doesn't have the balls to say "Yeah we should have said that in the OP, our mistake." It's not a surprise, but it is a shame.

Kings of Lowsec
Dark Flare
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#523 - 2013-05-12 15:43:45 UTC
Eram Fidard wrote:
Oh hey thanks for the age check. I had no idea how old this alt was, that was very helpful of you.

Because nobody ever used a forum alt, ever.

The thing I find the funniest about all this is your sense of entitlement. You honestly think if you whine long and hard enough, CCP is going to change their decision for you. Remind you of any other stereotypically whiny social groups in eve? Hi-sec carebears?


as it happens we are feeling entitled to the win we would have had had the rules not been changed after the competition

but that kinda makes sense

Kings of Lowsec
Audaerin
Aries Group
#524 - 2013-05-12 15:45:06 UTC
you could always take them to court to get your flag to fly high. it would be funny
Eram Fidard
Doomheim
#525 - 2013-05-12 15:46:22 UTC
...and when your **** alliance is consigned to the dustbin, people will totally remember you for this *rolls eyes*


get a ******* grip XD

Poster is not to be held responsible for damages to keyboards and/or noses caused by hot beverages.
Raziphan Rebular
Path of Dooppa
#526 - 2013-05-12 15:47:22 UTC
The biggest thing to take away from this thread is, not to brag about winning a contest before the results are announced. You might make an ass of yourself.
Dark Flare
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#527 - 2013-05-12 15:47:30 UTC
Eram Fidard wrote:
...and when your **** alliance is consigned to the dustbin, people will totally remember you for this *rolls eyes*


get a ******* grip XD

oh no people will think my alliance in an internet spaceship game once complained a lot

this is terrible

Kings of Lowsec
Ramirez Dora
Neckbeards International
#528 - 2013-05-12 15:48:23 UTC
Eram Fidard wrote:
Oh hey thanks for the age check. I had no idea how old this alt was, that was very helpful of you.

Because nobody ever used a forum alt, ever.

The thing I find the funniest about all this is your sense of entitlement. You honestly think if you whine long and hard enough, CCP is going to change their decision for you. Remind you of any other stereotypically whiny social groups in eve? Hi-sec carebears?


Whining has got a lot of things put into eve (or not)! On the matter of CCP making any further comments here, or heaven forbid make ANOTHER 180, I don't think they will nor do I really hope so. In my eyes they made a call for all-too-human reasons, and it can be argued that it was a bad call for many reasons (hand it to a POS-fight equiv/changing pretty clear ruleset, etc) but can also be argued the other way. Their own behaviour indicated they had all intentions to put 'CCP spawned items' in the middle of this event, which means they did mean to count it. Otherwise you'd expect a 'Hey guys CCP fleets will be roaming during this event but please be aware their kill values do not count to this event'.

The only thing the CCP guys can say is 'we made a call' so what more do we expect? Nothing really, but it won't stop us pointing out the glaring holes in said call. As above, let's hope they make it clearer next time, unlike the million times now they've failed on communications.
IamBeastx
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#529 - 2013-05-12 15:49:42 UTC
Dark Flare wrote:
IamBeastx wrote:
Dark Flare wrote:
IamBeastx wrote:
Ramirez Dora wrote:
.........
my corpmates have a strong dislike for PL for various reasons v0v Since when did everyone have to get along.


I would point out that not initially dis-allowing CCP mails into the tally was a slight oversight in the planning stages


discounting 50b of kills is now a "slight oversight"

you heard it here first


Don't get so distracted over the number.

I can almost guarantee that any more events of this nature will have a more specific ruleset to deal with the devspawned items that are normally not so easily caught and destroyed or even seen ingame.


I hope you're right, but I don't really have that much faith Lol

It's just a shame that CCP doesn't have the balls to say "Yeah we should have said that in the OP, our mistake." It's not a surprise, but it is a shame.


So if they came and said 'sorry we forgot about removing ourselves from the equation at the start' you'd stop the QQ and accept defeat.

All my life i wanted to be someone, now i know i should have been more specific.
Dark Flare
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#530 - 2013-05-12 15:51:31 UTC
IamBeastx wrote:
So if they came and said 'sorry we forgot about removing ourselves from the equation at the start' you'd stop the QQ and accept defeat.


Yes

As I said in like my second post here, I would also accept the entire staff of CCP standing under a banner that reads "WE LOVE URINE" as an apology Cool

Kings of Lowsec
Dark Flare
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#531 - 2013-05-12 15:51:55 UTC
Eram Fidard wrote:
...and when your **** alliance is consigned to the dustbin, people will totally remember you for this *rolls eyes*


get a ******* grip XD

oh i forgot to mention, using a forum alt is undignified Cool

Kings of Lowsec
Alli Othman
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#532 - 2013-05-12 15:52:02 UTC
Ramirez Dora wrote:
Eram Fidard wrote:
Oh hey thanks for the age check. I had no idea how old this alt was, that was very helpful of you.

Because nobody ever used a forum alt, ever.

The thing I find the funniest about all this is your sense of entitlement. You honestly think if you whine long and hard enough, CCP is going to change their decision for you. Remind you of any other stereotypically whiny social groups in eve? Hi-sec carebears?


Whining has got a lot of things put into eve (or not)! On the matter of CCP making any further comments here, or heaven forbid make ANOTHER 180, I don't think they will nor do I really hope so. In my eyes they made a call for all-too-human reasons, and it can be argued that it was a bad call for many reasons (hand it to a POS-fight equiv/changing pretty clear ruleset, etc) but can also be argued the other way. Their own behaviour indicated they had all intentions to put 'CCP spawned items' in the middle of this event, which means they did mean to count it. Otherwise you'd expect a 'Hey guys CCP fleets will be roaming during this event but please be aware their kill values do not count to this event'.

The only thing the CCP guys can say is 'we made a call' so what more do we expect? Nothing really, but it won't stop us pointing out the glaring holes in said call. As above, let's hope they make it clearer next time, unlike the million times now they've failed on communications.

HOW DARE THEY HAVE CELEBRATORY 10TH ANNIVERSARY FLEETS ON THE SAME DAY THEY HAVE A CELEBRATORY KINGS OF LOWSEC EVENT? I AM SO OUTRAGED.
IamBeastx
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#533 - 2013-05-12 15:57:29 UTC
Ramirez Dora wrote:
Eram Fidard wrote:
Oh hey thanks for the age check. I had no idea how old this alt was, that was very helpful of you.

Because nobody ever used a forum alt, ever.

The thing I find the funniest about all this is your sense of entitlement. You honestly think if you whine long and hard enough, CCP is going to change their decision for you. Remind you of any other stereotypically whiny social groups in eve? Hi-sec carebears?

Their own behaviour indicated they had all intentions to put 'CCP spawned items' in the middle of this event, which means they did mean to count it.


The behaviour exhibited more likely indicated they 'MIGHT' come and play, but most likely this was a secondary train of thought and therefore did not factor into the ruleset until AFTER they decided they would come play.

Lets not forget that when ccp comes to fight, they come kitted out in all ways with the idea of losing everything eventually, including the pods, something that normal players try to never lose and is practically impossible to lose in lowsec if you try.
How much isk where the pod mails worth in total.

All my life i wanted to be someone, now i know i should have been more specific.
IamBeastx
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#534 - 2013-05-12 15:58:18 UTC
Dark Flare wrote:
IamBeastx wrote:
So if they came and said 'sorry we forgot about removing ourselves from the equation at the start' you'd stop the QQ and accept defeat.


Yes

All my life i wanted to be someone, now i know i should have been more specific.
Dark Flare
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#535 - 2013-05-12 16:01:10 UTC
IamBeastx wrote:
Ramirez Dora wrote:
Eram Fidard wrote:
Oh hey thanks for the age check. I had no idea how old this alt was, that was very helpful of you.

Because nobody ever used a forum alt, ever.

The thing I find the funniest about all this is your sense of entitlement. You honestly think if you whine long and hard enough, CCP is going to change their decision for you. Remind you of any other stereotypically whiny social groups in eve? Hi-sec carebears?

Their own behaviour indicated they had all intentions to put 'CCP spawned items' in the middle of this event, which means they did mean to count it.


The behaviour exhibited more likely indicated they 'MIGHT' come and play, but most likely this was a secondary train of thought and therefore did not factor into the ruleset until AFTER they decided they would come play.

Lets not forget that when ccp comes to fight, they come kitted out in all ways with the idea of losing everything eventually, including the pods, something that normal players try to never lose and is practically impossible to lose in lowsec if you try.
How much isk where the pod mails worth in total.


There was like 40b of podmails I think. But the fact that CCP was always "probably" going to lose the pods isn't a surprise to anyone, and metagaming has always been huge in EVE, so it's no surprise that quite a few entities turned up with the intention of boosting stats by shooting CCP pods. And by the rules in the OP, it was the best strategy to win.

But there you go

Kings of Lowsec
Eram Fidard
Doomheim
#536 - 2013-05-12 16:04:16 UTC
Dark Flare wrote:
Eram Fidard wrote:
...and when your **** alliance is consigned to the dustbin, people will totally remember you for this *rolls eyes*


get a ******* grip XD

oh i forgot to mention, using a forum alt is undignified Cool



I get it, you're roleplaying a self-loathing unsuccessful person, with a tendency to cry at the drop of a hat.


******* roleplayers.

Poster is not to be held responsible for damages to keyboards and/or noses caused by hot beverages.
Dark Flare
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#537 - 2013-05-12 16:05:01 UTC
Eram Fidard wrote:
Dark Flare wrote:
Eram Fidard wrote:
...and when your **** alliance is consigned to the dustbin, people will totally remember you for this *rolls eyes*


get a ******* grip XD

oh i forgot to mention, using a forum alt is undignified Cool



I get it, you're roleplaying a self-loathing unsuccessful person, with a tendency to cry at the drop of a hat.


******* roleplayers.

nah i love myself and i'm basically amazing

but try another diagnosis dr phil

Kings of Lowsec
Ramirez Dora
Neckbeards International
#538 - 2013-05-12 16:06:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Ramirez Dora
IamBeastx wrote:

Lets not forget that when ccp comes to fight, they come kitted out in all ways with the idea of losing everything eventually, including the pods, something that normal players try to never lose and is practically impossible to lose in lowsec if you try.
How much isk where the pod mails worth in total.


Well the ones with snakes were ~2.5bil, ignoring all 0 value stuff in there. I think we counted it up to ~50-60 bil, but that's from posts here pre-announcement. And yes I'd agree they came to diaf eventually, but combined with their quite specific ruleset and lack of 'hey guys we don't count' gave nobody any reason to think it wouldn't. It's not like they came in their polaris ships.

E: it'd be more apt for them to apologise about just screwing up communications as whole, oh and the oh-so-blatant trolling of Fozzie :P
IamBeastx
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#539 - 2013-05-12 16:09:09 UTC  |  Edited by: IamBeastx
Dark Flare wrote:
IamBeastx wrote:
Ramirez Dora wrote:
Eram Fidard wrote:
Oh hey thanks for the age check. I had no idea how old this alt was, that was very helpful of you.

Because nobody ever used a forum alt, ever.

The thing I find the funniest about all this is your sense of entitlement. You honestly think if you whine long and hard enough, CCP is going to change their decision for you. Remind you of any other stereotypically whiny social groups in eve? Hi-sec carebears?

Their own behaviour indicated they had all intentions to put 'CCP spawned items' in the middle of this event, which means they did mean to count it.


The behaviour exhibited more likely indicated they 'MIGHT' come and play, but most likely this was a secondary train of thought and therefore did not factor into the ruleset until AFTER they decided they would come play.

Lets not forget that when ccp comes to fight, they come kitted out in all ways with the idea of losing everything eventually, including the pods, something that normal players try to never lose and is practically impossible to lose in lowsec if you try.
How much isk where the pod mails worth in total.


There was like 40b of podmails I think. But the fact that CCP was always "probably" going to lose the pods isn't a surprise to anyone, and metagaming has always been huge in EVE, so it's no surprise that quite a few entities turned up with the intention of boosting stats by shooting CCP pods. And by the rules in the OP, it was the best strategy to win.

But there you go


We can easily agree that 40b to 50b of pods in lowsec in a single day, from a single group of pilots (dev's) is unheard of and MOST likely the main component behind 'we should remove dev mails/pods from the tally'.

On the other point, whilst many may have gone for the kill dev's to statpad tactic, we didn't, we stuck to our usual mantra of get into the biggest fights, kill the most people, kill the super, have the most fun tactic.

All my life i wanted to be someone, now i know i should have been more specific.
Eram Fidard
Doomheim
#540 - 2013-05-12 16:09:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Eram Fidard
Dark Flare wrote:
Eram Fidard wrote:
Dark Flare wrote:
Eram Fidard wrote:
...and when your **** alliance is consigned to the dustbin, people will totally remember you for this *rolls eyes*


get a ******* grip XD

oh i forgot to mention, using a forum alt is undignified Cool



I get it, you're roleplaying a self-loathing unsuccessful person, with a tendency to cry at the drop of a hat.


******* roleplayers.

nah i love myself and i'm basically amazing

but try another diagnosis dr phil


Wow, that was quick and defensive, as your illustrious Dr. would say:

Why do you feel the need to defend yourself? I was talking about the persona you are roleplaying, and you seem to think I was talking about your real life persona. I mean, it's only internet spaceships, right? Who needs dignity?


funny what happens when you postulate your entire douche-baggery on the fact that "it's just internet spaceships"

Poster is not to be held responsible for damages to keyboards and/or noses caused by hot beverages.