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Confused about patch notes for 1.1.3

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Naran Eto
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#21 - 2011-11-01 22:14:16 UTC
CCP Tuxford wrote:
Morganta wrote:
heh, sounds like it be one of those unpredictable things I hear a game engine does from time to time

best of luck on that one Ugh


Sometimes we end up debugging stuff that happens sporadically with no common thread and no logs. At those times I walk around with a limp and pretend I'm doctor House. QA doesn't like it much.


Personaly i think it's them pesky database guys playing silly buggers.

I can just picture them hiding behind a server cluster hiked up on cafeine and giggling like children.
Abdiel Kavash
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#22 - 2011-11-01 22:21:59 UTC
All your character are belong to us.
CCP Tuxford
C C P
C C P Alliance
#23 - 2011-11-01 22:23:11 UTC
Abdiel Kavash wrote:
All your character are belong to us.

Well they are supposed to but they keep escaping.

https://gate.eveonline.com/Profile/CCP%20Tuxford/StatusUpdates
Florestan Bronstein
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#24 - 2011-11-01 22:25:04 UTC
CCP Tuxford wrote:
Abdiel Kavash wrote:
All your character are belong to us.

Well they are supposed to but they keep escaping.

make your time.
Scrapyard Bob
EVE University
Ivy League
#25 - 2011-11-01 22:37:13 UTC
Astrid Stjerna wrote:

The end-result is that the cluster tries to undock or fit a module to 'Bob' -- but Bob only looks like a ship, and doesn't have the code required to allow him to undock or fit a module.


Please don't plug that module in there...
Phyress
Isumi Industries
#26 - 2011-11-01 22:54:52 UTC
I won't complain until I see a pilot hop out of his pod, stretch out his hand, and stop the storm of 800mm shells I'm firing at him.
Phantom Slave
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#27 - 2011-11-01 22:57:46 UTC
CCP Tuxford wrote:
Abdiel Kavash wrote:
All your character are belong to us.

Well they are supposed to but they keep escaping.


Wait, so is CCP like the Matrix? That's some quantum shiat right there!

Mmm, I love the smell of pod goo in the morning.
Serinas Setzuni
#28 - 2011-11-02 05:55:30 UTC
I'd start with a quick scan of all the code to see where that field got referenced, and look for improper assignments everywhere it appears. Since you guys have been messing with C++, check pointers too. Pay close attention to assignments/if statements and make sure you aren't assigning a new value when you intended to do a lookup. Blink
Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
The Curatores Veritatis Auxiliary
#29 - 2011-11-02 06:54:57 UTC
Ok so, when my own ship unpods me and undocks on its own from a station, or, unpods me and drops me in the middle of space - time to run for the hills or too late ?

Ships are going to start podding their own pilots as revenge for all the abuse we make them go through.

Skynet is Real - ask any hacker.

COO - Bene Gesserit Chapterhouse  CEO - Sanctuary Pact Alliance
Dalloway Jones
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#30 - 2011-11-02 08:11:22 UTC
CCP Tuxford wrote:


P.S. The characters that we fixed in September were not all owned by themselves. Sometimes by somebody completely different. It's bizarre really (and only a little bit scary).



Let me guess. The characters that owned other players were all dirty dirty Amarr scum weren't they?
The Offerer
Doomheim
#31 - 2011-11-02 10:06:44 UTC
Dalloway Jones wrote:
CCP Tuxford wrote:


P.S. The characters that we fixed in September were not all owned by themselves. Sometimes by somebody completely different. It's bizarre really (and only a little bit scary).



Let me guess. The characters that owned other players were all dirty dirty Amarr scum weren't they?

In that case, try finding the Caldari responsible for selling those.

Anyway, thanks for the explanation, Tuxford.
Astrid Stjerna
Sebiestor Tribe
#32 - 2011-11-03 15:17:47 UTC
Thorn Galen wrote:

Ships are going to start podding their own pilots as revenge for all the abuse we make them go through.


Dave Bowman: Open the pod bay doors, HAL.
HAL: I'm sorry, Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that.

I can't get rid of my darn signature!  Oh, wait....
De'Veldrin
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#33 - 2011-11-03 15:24:39 UTC
Naran Eto wrote:
CCP Tuxford wrote:
Morganta wrote:
heh, sounds like it be one of those unpredictable things I hear a game engine does from time to time

best of luck on that one Ugh


Sometimes we end up debugging stuff that happens sporadically with no common thread and no logs. At those times I walk around with a limp and pretend I'm doctor House. QA doesn't like it much.


Personaly i think it's them pesky database guys playing silly buggers.

I can just picture them hiding behind a server cluster hiked up on cafeine and giggling like children.


The first rule of being a DBA:
Blame the application.

De'Veldrin's Corollary (to Malcanis' Law): Any idea that seeks to limit the ability of a large nullsec bloc to do something in the name of allowing more small groups into sov null will inevitably make it that much harder for small groups to enter sov null.
Barakkus
#34 - 2011-11-03 15:29:46 UTC
De'Veldrin wrote:
Naran Eto wrote:
CCP Tuxford wrote:
Morganta wrote:
heh, sounds like it be one of those unpredictable things I hear a game engine does from time to time

best of luck on that one Ugh


Sometimes we end up debugging stuff that happens sporadically with no common thread and no logs. At those times I walk around with a limp and pretend I'm doctor House. QA doesn't like it much.


Personaly i think it's them pesky database guys playing silly buggers.

I can just picture them hiding behind a server cluster hiked up on cafeine and giggling like children.


The first rule of being a DBA:
Blame the application.


Being both a programmer and DBA...99.999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of the time it's the application's fault Blink

http://youtu.be/yytbDZrw1jc
De'Veldrin
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#35 - 2011-11-03 15:32:27 UTC
Barakkus wrote:
De'Veldrin wrote:

The first rule of being a DBA:
Blame the application.


Being both a programmer and DBA...99.999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of the time it's the application's fault Blink


And the rest of the time it's sunspot activity. Big smile

De'Veldrin's Corollary (to Malcanis' Law): Any idea that seeks to limit the ability of a large nullsec bloc to do something in the name of allowing more small groups into sov null will inevitably make it that much harder for small groups to enter sov null.
Chi Ftele
Doomheim
#36 - 2011-11-03 15:32:43 UTC
Astrid Stjerna wrote:
Essentially, it's an unanticipated bug -- CCP simply never accounted for a situation in which the character might 'belong' to itself. .


is that like code becoming self-aware? if so, that is scary...

That is all.
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