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looking for Orca FC for hire or fleet to join
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xPredat0rz
Project.Nova
The Initiative.
#21 - 2013-05-12 03:59:01 UTC
Emma Royd wrote:
I would guess that anyone who runs an orca fleet open to the public has their orca sat in a tower so they are safe from awoxers apart from corp/alliance mates

Edit - this will change should CCP ever get rid of off grid boosting which is another story :)


CCP cant **** with OGB as it will make the rorqual pointless. No sane person would siege the damn thing in a belt in null sec to get their uber boosts.

If you cant provide links from a POS null sec industry would grind to a halt.
DeLindsay
Galaxies Fall
#22 - 2013-05-12 05:14:27 UTC
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CCP cant **** with OGB as it will make the rorqual pointless. No sane person would siege the damn thing in a belt in null sec to get their uber boosts.

If you cant provide links from a POS null sec industry would grind to a halt.

All CCP needs to do is take a page from Trion Worlds (Rift) and tweak the programming code so that certain ships would be required to be on grid for their gang modules to work, and others not. Or they could just make it so that all T3 , BC, CS and Cap ship (excluding Rorq) would have their Gang Module effectiveness to ships only within 250km. The Rorqual could have a completely separate set of Gang Mods specifically for it that have a range of "System" since it's really the only ship that needs to boost from a POS. ALL other ships should be on grid and in harms way the entire time they are boosting. I include the Orca as on-grid since it's mainly used for Highsec carebears and can be very well tanked so sitting in the belt instead of the relative safety of AT 0 to the local Station would help with AFK mining that everyone seems to hate so much.

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Danni stark
#23 - 2013-05-12 08:23:48 UTC
xPredat0rz wrote:
Emma Royd wrote:
I would guess that anyone who runs an orca fleet open to the public has their orca sat in a tower so they are safe from awoxers apart from corp/alliance mates

Edit - this will change should CCP ever get rid of off grid boosting which is another story :)


CCP cant **** with OGB as it will make the rorqual pointless. No sane person would siege the damn thing in a belt in null sec to get their uber boosts.

If you cant provide links from a POS null sec industry would grind to a halt.


or people would just use orcas. it's only a 14% yield difference.

Ice Mining Skill Plan.
xPredat0rz
Project.Nova
The Initiative.
#24 - 2013-05-12 10:43:42 UTC
Danni stark wrote:
xPredat0rz wrote:
Emma Royd wrote:
I would guess that anyone who runs an orca fleet open to the public has their orca sat in a tower so they are safe from awoxers apart from corp/alliance mates

Edit - this will change should CCP ever get rid of off grid boosting which is another story :)


CCP cant **** with OGB as it will make the rorqual pointless. No sane person would siege the damn thing in a belt in null sec to get their uber boosts.

If you cant provide links from a POS null sec industry would grind to a halt.


or people would just use orcas. it's only a 14% yield difference.


14% is huge when your talking null sec mining. Tends to be the difference between not ******* worth it and I can actually make some isk off of this.

Most of the serious miners i know would run 20 hulks/macks with a rorq in transformer mode(if you have ever seen it you know what i mean) With a second rorq hauling **** back and forth to station. Once the mining was all done for the week he would use both rorqs in a pos to compress it all.

Its 280% more yield at the end of the op.
Danni stark
#25 - 2013-05-12 11:02:58 UTC
xPredat0rz wrote:
Its 280% more yield at the end of the op.

bro, do you even math?

Ice Mining Skill Plan.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#26 - 2013-05-12 12:46:24 UTC
Haulie Berry wrote:


No, seriously, what is the source of this idiocy? There's no greater danger of being popped by a fleetmate than there is of being popped by not-a-fleetmate.




This actually happened twice in the Alliance I was in 3 years ago when I started playing.

Again, you just never type any kind of real information at all.

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trevormax
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#27 - 2013-05-12 12:53:18 UTC
xPredat0rz wrote:
Emma Royd wrote:
I would guess that anyone who runs an orca fleet open to the public has their orca sat in a tower so they are safe from awoxers apart from corp/alliance mates

Edit - this will change should CCP ever get rid of off grid boosting which is another story :)


CCP cant **** with OGB as it will make the rorqual pointless. No sane person would siege the damn thing in a belt in null sec to get their uber boosts.

If you cant provide links from a POS null sec industry would grind to a halt.


risk = reward. Null sec is supposed to be very risky. Maybe there is more risk than the reward you would get however v0v
Danni stark
#28 - 2013-05-12 13:07:12 UTC
trevormax wrote:
xPredat0rz wrote:
Emma Royd wrote:
I would guess that anyone who runs an orca fleet open to the public has their orca sat in a tower so they are safe from awoxers apart from corp/alliance mates

Edit - this will change should CCP ever get rid of off grid boosting which is another story :)


CCP cant **** with OGB as it will make the rorqual pointless. No sane person would siege the damn thing in a belt in null sec to get their uber boosts.

If you cant provide links from a POS null sec industry would grind to a halt.


risk = reward. Null sec is supposed to be very risky. Maybe there is more risk than the reward you would get however v0v


so you have to siege a 2+bn isk ship in an anomaly that doesn't have to be scanned down, in order to mine ore that then has to be converted in to isk on the market, and then you end up with less isk, than ratting in a battlecruiser?

yup, sounds like on grid boosting is very balanced in that respect.

Ice Mining Skill Plan.
Haulie Berry
#29 - 2013-05-12 16:35:45 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Haulie Berry wrote:


No, seriously, what is the source of this idiocy? There's no greater danger of being popped by a fleetmate than there is of being popped by not-a-fleetmate.




This actually happened twice in the Alliance I was in 3 years ago when I started playing.

Again, you just never type any kind of real information at all.


And I'm sure there's just totally no way they could have done it without being fleeted, because orcas are highly stealthy and difficult to find without wtz, right? RollRoll

That it happened in your alliance has ****-all to do with being in a fleet.
Ersahi Kir
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#30 - 2013-05-13 04:48:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Ersahi Kir
edited cuz
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#31 - 2013-05-13 07:55:52 UTC
Danni stark wrote:
so you have to siege a 2+bn isk ship in an anomaly that doesn't have to be scanned down, in order to mine ore that then has to be converted in to isk on the market, and then you end up with less isk, than ratting in a battlecruiser?

yup, sounds like on grid boosting is very balanced in that respect.

You forgot to add a pilot with a mindlink implant that is over 1 billion ISK, plus probably another billion or two of other implants in his head, and likely a fairly expensive medical clone.
Danni stark
#32 - 2013-05-13 07:57:33 UTC
Tau Cabalander wrote:
Danni stark wrote:
so you have to siege a 2+bn isk ship in an anomaly that doesn't have to be scanned down, in order to mine ore that then has to be converted in to isk on the market, and then you end up with less isk, than ratting in a battlecruiser?

yup, sounds like on grid boosting is very balanced in that respect.

You forgot to add a pilot with a mindlink implant that is over 1 billion ISK, plus probably another billion or two of other implants in his head, and likely a fairly expensive medical clone.


to be honest, for the sake of 14% yield, i'd just stick to the orca if boosts went on grid. a rorqual simply isn't worth the risk, personally.

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