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Wanted - Moon mineral maps of the Great Wildlands

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Clism
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2011-11-01 17:40:36 UTC
Yes, I know about Dotlan maps and several other sources but they do not have coverage of all the moons in several 0.0 regions including the Great Wildlands. Can someone who has at least partial coverage of the Great Wildlands please contact me in game. And if there is a source online of this information that I've missed, please let me know. Thanks!
Joshua Aivoras
Tech IV Industries
#2 - 2011-11-01 19:09:42 UTC
If you found an empty system and by some miracle it had tech or the like, and NOBODY knew about it, would you report it to dotlan?

Maybe there unregistered for a reason?

95% of the players are loving EVE, the other 5%? On the forums.
mxzf
Shovel Bros
#3 - 2011-11-01 20:04:15 UTC
If you want, you might be able to hire me to scan some of the systems for you for a reasonable price. If you're interested, send me a mail sometime and we can see if we can work something out.
Mara Villoso
Long Jump.
#4 - 2011-11-01 20:15:38 UTC
How strange. Early this year or late last year, I was looking at the moons in Great Wildlands and the list was complete. I go back to the list after seeing this post (http://evemaps.dotlan.net/region/Great_Wildlands/moons) and the list has been changed. At the time it had every system's moons listed. It sure does look like dotlan removed the info for some reason. Perhaps an interested party paid them to remove the info.
Clism
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2011-11-01 20:34:13 UTC
Mara Villoso wrote:
How strange. Early this year or late last year, I was looking at the moons in Great Wildlands and the list was complete. I go back to the list after seeing this post (http://evemaps.dotlan.net/region/Great_Wildlands/moons) and the list has been changed. At the time it had every system's moons listed. It sure does look like dotlan removed the info for some reason. Perhaps an interested party paid them to remove the info.



That is very interesting! Currently only 6% of the moons are shown on Dotlan maps. I wonder why this occurred?
I will write dotlan and ask. I had written the owner of dotlan in game but he did not respond. Thank you for your helpful and courteous post.
Joshua Aivoras
Tech IV Industries
#6 - 2011-11-01 22:57:37 UTC
Clism wrote:
Thank you for your helpful and courteous post.


Sorry man, didn't mean to come off as a douchebag.

Just saying that mining moon Gold is basically how you win this game, and if you found it, you certianly wouldn't announce it.

Good luck on your search, though Great WIldlands is Russian space, kinda doubtful they'll let you keep anything you find....


95% of the players are loving EVE, the other 5%? On the forums.
Clism
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2011-11-02 01:58:01 UTC
Clism wrote:
Mara Villoso wrote:
How strange. Early this year or late last year, I was looking at the moons in Great Wildlands and the list was complete. I go back to the list after seeing this post (http://evemaps.dotlan.net/region/Great_Wildlands/moons) and the list has been changed. At the time it had every system's moons listed. It sure does look like dotlan removed the info for some reason. Perhaps an interested party paid them to remove the info.



That is very interesting! Currently only 6% of the moons are shown on Dotlan maps. I wonder why this occurred?
I will write dotlan and ask. I had written the owner of dotlan in game but he did not respond. Thank you for your helpful and courteous post.



OK I wrote the guy who does Dotlan and asked about this, here is his response:

From: Wollari
Sent: 2011.11.01 22:35
To: Clism,

I can't remember that I've deleted parts of the database. only when I got updates from a trusted source cause moons don't change that often. But basically I can't remember that I've deleted anything major from GW in the past.

greetings
Wollari

Re: Great Wildlands
From: Clism
Sent: 2011.11.01 21:05
To: Wollari


What I'm asking is, according to posts on the forums, your database USED to have data for the moons in Great Wildlands, and now does not. Did it ever have that data? Thanks.
CCP Spitfire
C C P
C C P Alliance
#8 - 2011-11-02 08:19:33 UTC
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Cyniac
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2011-11-02 09:55:57 UTC
Clism wrote:
Yes, I know about Dotlan maps and several other sources but they do not have coverage of all the moons in several 0.0 regions including the Great Wildlands. Can someone who has at least partial coverage of the Great Wildlands please contact me in game. And if there is a source online of this information that I've missed, please let me know. Thanks!


How much are you willing to pay for this?

Let me give you a few numbers to think about.

The Great Wildlands is comprised of 96 systems

Those systems have a total of 3892 moons

A gaze survey probe will cost 194,000 ISK

Cost to survey, in probes - 755 million ISK

And then of course you have to add the pilot hours to do this.
Iosue
League of Gentlemen
The Initiative.
#10 - 2011-11-02 19:06:49 UTC
Not sure how accurate this is or if it has the info your looking for but you might try checking out the Moon Map Project thread. gl.
Joe SMASH
You Got A Purty Mouth
#11 - 2011-11-02 19:26:14 UTC
Iosue wrote:
Not sure how accurate this is or if it has the info your looking for but you might try checking out the Moon Map Project thread. gl.


FYI, that project did not cover 0.0, but it is pretty accurate.
Clism
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2011-11-02 20:46:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Clism
Cyniac wrote:
Clism wrote:
Yes, I know about Dotlan maps and several other sources but they do not have coverage of all the moons in several 0.0 regions including the Great Wildlands. Can someone who has at least partial coverage of the Great Wildlands please contact me in game. And if there is a source online of this information that I've missed, please let me know. Thanks!


How much are you willing to pay for this?

Let me give you a few numbers to think about.

The Great Wildlands is comprised of 96 systems

Those systems have a total of 3892 moons

A gaze survey probe will cost 194,000 ISK

Cost to survey, in probes - 755 million ISK

And then of course you have to add the pilot hours to do this.



I'm hoping to assist in adding this data to the Dotlan maps. Yes, i understand fully the immensity of the task, and the expense. We have these wonderful Dotlan maps, just they're incomplete. Whoever did that task should be commended and get credit for their work. If they wish to keep it all a secret, that's their free right to do so.
Tenchi Sal
White Knights of Equestria
#13 - 2011-11-02 21:36:44 UTC
why not just make a scanning alt with cov ops frig and scan in the back ground while you are doing other things?
Red Teufel
Calamitous-Intent
#14 - 2011-11-03 04:57:28 UTC
if you put a pos up in GW it will get taken down.
Cyniac
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2011-11-03 11:05:53 UTC
Clism wrote:
I'm hoping to assist in adding this data to the Dotlan maps. Yes, i understand fully the immensity of the task, and the expense. We have these wonderful Dotlan maps, just they're incomplete. Whoever did that task should be commended and get credit for their work. If they wish to keep it all a secret, that's their free right to do so.


Good luck with that.


Tenchi Sal wrote:
why not just make a scanning alt with cov ops frig and scan in the back ground while you are doing other things?


Ever tried to map a system's moons? It's not an AFK activity you know.
Serial Chi
White Knights of Equestria
#16 - 2011-11-03 13:02:22 UTC
shoot a probe at the moon, cloak up, alt tab a while later, next moon. seems pretty afk to me.
Velicitia
XS Tech
#17 - 2011-11-03 13:08:01 UTC
you can actually check all the moons at once (sort of)

go to moon, shoot probe, repeat until all moons have probes.
Cloak, Wait for probe data to come back.

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Cyniac
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2011-11-03 13:12:15 UTC
Velicitia wrote:
you can actually check all the moons at once (sort of)

go to moon, shoot probe, repeat until all moons have probes.
Cloak, Wait for probe data to come back.


This is exactly it.

Have you checked out the systems in Wild lands? A typical one would be 2X7Z-L

Notice the fact that it has 72 moons? So yep warp align shoot probe 72 times to map the system. Then you have a 10 minute "break" in which you wait for results... how long to do the warp-align-shoot-probe-warp-align-rince repeat thing? I'm pretty sure you'll spend more time warping and dropping probes than waiting for results.

So... AFKish? Not if you want to ever get it done.
Serial Chi
White Knights of Equestria
#19 - 2011-11-03 14:05:00 UTC
this is why you do it afkish. slowly and not worrying to much about it, with an alt. no ones gonna wanna map out that entire region when you can just sit in high sec and make 100mil an hour. much more then what the op would be willing to pay. or if the op is willing to pay 100mil an hour to map out moons, then there would be no problem highering someone.
Clism
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2011-11-04 20:11:29 UTC
Cyniac wrote:
Velicitia wrote:
you can actually check all the moons at once (sort of)

go to moon, shoot probe, repeat until all moons have probes.
Cloak, Wait for probe data to come back.


This is exactly it.

Have you checked out the systems in Wild lands? A typical one would be 2X7Z-L

Notice the fact that it has 72 moons? So yep warp align shoot probe 72 times to map the system. Then you have a 10 minute "break" in which you wait for results... how long to do the warp-align-shoot-probe-warp-align-rince repeat thing? I'm pretty sure you'll spend more time warping and dropping probes than waiting for results.

So... AFKish? Not if you want to ever get it done.



I agree with you 100%, and all the while having the locals hunt you, bubble the gate, etc. which is fun to evade and laugh.
But I fail to understand how this became a "how to scan moons" thread, when the task at hand would involve probing 1000's of moons which have already been probed by other people. No one is asking how you scan a moon. I've previously scanned entire regions.

Dotlan maps are really useful but there are gaps. Some of us enjoy data and filling those gaps. Again I have no desire to place a POS in such a "friendly" place (ha ha ha).

Again, if you have moon maps of GW or other blank areas on the map, please consider contacting me in game. Thanks.
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