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Dual-Repping Tengus

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Zinn Irate
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-05-10 02:26:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Zinn Irate
I've heard it said that dual-repping tengus are good for C3 and C4 WHs.

I've played around with EFT to try it out, but I never get nearly the defense or EHP I get from the drake (at a much lower cost.) The tengus have a greater range and are a bit faster, but the DPS is comparable.

Anyone have a dual-rep fit I could look at to see if I'm missing something here?

Edit: Just to clarify, I'm not trying to solo. This is for two tengu pilots, who currently use drakes. We can easily handle the anoms. It's the radars and mags we're trying to tackle. That and I'm just curious what this illusive tengu fit looks like. Seems like it probably would require faction fits.
Hellynx84
Revolution of Chaos
#2 - 2013-05-10 03:54:52 UTC
I was living solo in a c3, using a tengu for sites.

Cant remember my exact fit right now, however i do remeber i was running a single large Dread Gurista Shield Booster, and Dread Gurista Shield Boost Amplifier.

Worked a treat. Handle any site I thru it into. If I remember my fit, ill post it up.

..

Dazz Riiiiiiight
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2013-05-10 11:11:11 UTC
Hellynx84 wrote:
I was living solo in a c3, using a tengu for sites.

Cant remember my exact fit right now, however i do remeber i was running a single large Dread Gurista Shield Booster, and Dread Gurista Shield Boost Amplifier.

Worked a treat. Handle any site I thru it into. If I remember my fit, ill post it up.


T2 works fine, and looks better on your inevitable lossmail.
Nash MacAllister
Air
The Initiative.
#4 - 2013-05-10 12:31:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Nash MacAllister
I am sure there will be comments but 2-3 of these will run through any C4 sites. The 4 BS wave in the Radar sites is the only one that offers a challenge so focus fire if you are running it. Substitute T2 modules if you have the fitting skills/implants, but keep it cap stable with the T2 CCC rigs. I will see if I can dig up my Solo C3 Tengu fit but although it works well, it is pricey, and the chances of getting ganked in it are very high (so hope you made your money out of it before that happens, and it will happen).

FWIW, I have never seen a Tengu fit that could solo C4 sites, or any ship besides a Cap (terrible idea) that could solo C4 sites for that matter.

[Tengu, C4 PVE RR Tengu]
Tengu Defensive - Adaptive Shielding
Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst

Damage Control II
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Signal Amplifier II

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Pithum C-Type EM Ward Amplifier
Pithum C-Type EM Ward Amplifier
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter

Medium Anti-Explosive Screen Reinforcer II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II

Yes, if you have to ask yourself the question, just assume we are watching you...

Sushi Nardieu
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2013-05-10 12:42:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Sushi Nardieu
oversize shield

dual rep armour

wait... not sure if this applies to PvE.

The Guns of Knowledge 

Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2013-05-10 12:44:06 UTC
C3's can easily be done with a fit based around a medium shield booster. I had used a Gistum C-type.
grassy 420
Anoikis Equilibrium
Honorable Third Party
#7 - 2013-05-10 14:09:51 UTC
why do you need two reps? 1 large is fine or even a medium you could probaly get away with.. c4's and below are retarted easy not much challenge or dps either.
Dato Koppla
Spaghetti Militia
#8 - 2013-05-10 14:40:04 UTC
I used something like this for C3 anoms, with some tweaking you can even do most of the mags/radars.

[Tengu, C3]

Capacitor Flux Coil II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Dread Guristas Large Shield Booster
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Dread Guristas EM Ward Field
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst I

Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix
Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
Tengu Electronics - CPU Efficiency Gate

The DG large booster is only 20+mil so it's definitely worth it, the T2 CCCs don't drop on death and are 45mil a piece so still really cheap and worth it. Total the fit is around 560mil.

530dps @ 70km or 452dps to 83km with faction.
771 dps capstable tank against uniform damage
Mr Floydy
Questionable Ethics.
Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
#9 - 2013-05-10 16:12:47 UTC
Corpmate of mine used to run C3s with a pair of gisti smalls if I remember correctly, worked out about the same price as a bigger booster whilst easier to fit.
Dato Koppla
Spaghetti Militia
#10 - 2013-05-11 01:14:07 UTC
The cheapest gistii small shield booster is 120mil, 2 would be 240mil which is 12x the price of using a single DG Large Booster.
Galileo Ohaya
Tortuga Coalition 102
#11 - 2013-05-11 01:35:42 UTC
I can't fly a Tengu yet but I'm interested in the OPs Drake fit that he and his buddy are using for the C3s. Maybe it is my skills or fit, but I can't do the C3 anoms in a dual rep Drake.

Care to share your fit?
Zinn Irate
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#12 - 2013-05-11 01:51:52 UTC
Galileo Ohaya wrote:
I can't fly a Tengu yet but I'm interested in the OPs Drake fit that he and his buddy are using for the C3s. Maybe it is my skills or fit, but I can't do the C3 anoms in a dual rep Drake.

Care to share your fit?



I have a few, depending on which anom. But none of them use reppers. With a drake, you want to go for core field purgers, shield power relays, and invul fields. I rarely get below 50% on the anoms.
Galileo Ohaya
Tortuga Coalition 102
#13 - 2013-05-11 01:59:17 UTC
Zinn Irate wrote:
Galileo Ohaya wrote:
I can't fly a Tengu yet but I'm interested in the OPs Drake fit that he and his buddy are using for the C3s. Maybe it is my skills or fit, but I can't do the C3 anoms in a dual rep Drake.

Care to share your fit?



I have a few, depending on which anom. But none of them use reppers. With a drake, you want to go for core field purgers, shield power relays, and invul fields. I rarely get below 50% on the anoms.


Thanks
Dato Koppla
Spaghetti Militia
#14 - 2013-05-11 13:28:27 UTC
This will handle all the C3 anoms though it gets dicey in one of them (because of a neuting BS you may have to warp out to recharge cap), but it's very reliable and I used one for ages.

[Drake, C3]

Ballistic Control System II
Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Shield Recharger II

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
[Empty High slot]

Medium Core Defense Field Purger I
Medium Core Defense Field Purger I
Medium Core Defense Field Purger I


Hobgoblin II x5
Methaias
Venture League
#15 - 2013-05-11 15:25:28 UTC
I Dual box tengus with large S95 shield transporters & T2 HMLs or HAMs, mid slots for T2 resists/buffer/AB, rigs for T2 shield buffer and cap, low slots for T2 BCUs and cap. W/max skills = cap stable w/550 to 700dps ea (thanks nerf!). Tank around 50k but reps 500+/cycle. Barring environmental effects it wins C4 sites all the time. Need a friend with a noctis though cause you cant leave one of them alone. Shocked

No... no faction stuff, shouldnt need it, I never have up to C6 capital excalations... with carrier support of course. Yes, makes the inevitable lossmail easier to bear.

Fly safe, happy hunting, and may your deathsplosion be brilliant and all encompassing.

Galileo Ohaya
Tortuga Coalition 102
#16 - 2013-05-11 20:06:23 UTC
Thanks for posting it. this is pretty much what I came up with other than I have 2 purger and 1 extender rig, and 2 extenders and 3 hardeners. I also went with 2 Shield Power relays and 2 BCUs. I don't have nearly the regen you would but maybe a touch more dps.

I'll play with it and see how it works for me.

Dato Koppla wrote:
This will handle all the C3 anoms though it gets dicey in one of them (because of a neuting BS you may have to warp out to recharge cap), but it's very reliable and I used one for ages.

[Drake, C3]

Ballistic Control System II
Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Shield Recharger II

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
[Empty High slot]

Medium Core Defense Field Purger I
Medium Core Defense Field Purger I
Medium Core Defense Field Purger I


Hobgoblin II x5

Sergant Steel
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#17 - 2013-06-28 20:31:30 UTC
Nash MacAllister wrote:
FWIW, I have never seen a Tengu fit that could solo C4 sites, or any ship besides a Cap (terrible idea) that could solo C4 sites for that matter.

Actually ive seen a video of a vargur soloing c5's and there are plent of local tank solo tengu for c4, do research first.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDqQzVLbNXk - part one.\_ C5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ff8c39qQE-M - part two. /

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7C2nOMxgM0 - vargur in c4 radar.

Steel
Evangelina Nolen
Sama Guild
#18 - 2013-06-29 07:32:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Evangelina Nolen
the bro's that run tengu's as dual rep run small pithi A boosters.

Edit: Just remmebered, those only work in C3 and null sites. C4 will crush them.