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Nullsec hunter-killers, please enlighten me

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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#121 - 2013-05-10 01:42:51 UTC
Skex Relbore wrote:
Tanthos wrote:
It's podding that confuses me.

Blowing up other people's ships. I can see both the profit and the fun in that. But podding makes no sense. No profit. No challenge. And you can't mock them in Local once they're gone.


Sure you can, see my earlier post about the guys contracting my corpse back to me. That was a nice touch that could certainly get under the skin of people like the OP. Plus it's more killboard padding particularly now that implants are included on the mails. Hell I've lost plenty of pods worth more than the ship I was riding.

In null sec it's simple. If they aren't friends you shoot them. that's all the reason one needs.



I think I could make a valid argument to make capsules impervious to destruction, have no overview beyond gates and stations, and have ALL ship destruction result in random implant damage/destruction and that would make things a lot harder for everybody and "spread the love" of implant loss to everybody from highsec bear to hardcore death-a-day PVPers.
And no using the clone vat as a instant respawn point either as getting podded back to it is gone.

Just can't figure out what kind of player would scream and cry the loudest over such a proposed change.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Jarod Garamonde
Jolly Codgers
Get Off My Lawn
#122 - 2013-05-10 01:51:23 UTC
Asmodai Xodai wrote:
[quote]
I don't get it. Are you saying that ratting an anomaly is 'carebear' activity? Every single high-end PvP'er I know does it.

Or is the term 'carebear' just a generic pejorative thrown around whenever you read a post you don't happen to like for whatever reason?



Not in the least. Carebear is someone who tries to avoid PvP, and never willingly participates in it.
I run missions. I hit up anoms and plexes. I rat the belts. I manufacture and trade. I also hunt other people who do those same things, as well as engage in highsec duelling.

I am saying that a carebear who takes his out-of-station activities to nullsec... mining, ratting, plexing, and anom-scanning... is, simply put: braver than us.
Most nullbears don't whine about getting zapped. They take it in stride, and build a new ship. And, they deserve a little respect for that.

That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...

    [#savethelance]
Asmodai Xodai
#123 - 2013-05-10 02:13:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Asmodai Xodai
Jarod Garamonde wrote:
Carebear is someone who tries to avoid PvP, and never willingly participates in it.


So the trolls posting here presume that they have any inkling or clue whatsoever on my 'carebear' status? Anyone posting here is about as qualified to speak on that as I am to speak on your sexual orientation, criminal status, or anything else.

These forums are dominated by bigger idiots than I thought.
Jarod Garamonde
Jolly Codgers
Get Off My Lawn
#124 - 2013-05-10 02:20:15 UTC
Asmodai Xodai wrote:
Jarod Garamonde wrote:
Carebear is someone who tries to avoid PvP, and never willingly participates in it.


So the trolls posting here presume that they have any inkling or clue whatsoever on my 'carebear' status?

These forums are dominated by bigger idiots than I thought.


Nope... I looked you up on Battleclinic, before commenting.
You have zero kills and 12 losses. Not a single one of your losses was much of a combat ship. Most of the ships you've flown are mining ships.

That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...

    [#savethelance]
Asmodai Xodai
#125 - 2013-05-10 02:25:27 UTC
Jarod Garamonde wrote:

Nope... I looked you up on Battleclinic, before commenting.
You have zero kills and 12 losses. Not a single one of your losses was much of a combat ship. Most of the ships you've flown are mining ships.


Then you are either a liar, or your data is faulty, because I am looking at my combat log right now, and it says more than 12 losses, and more than 0 kills, not that either statistics means anything in either regard.
Verlyn
Black Rabbits
Black Rabbit.
#126 - 2013-05-10 02:40:17 UTC
Asmodai Xodai wrote:
Had local chat pulled up, of course. Was working down the final battleship when a couple of hostiles appeared in local chat. I noticed it instantly,...


At that point on, I stopped reading.
Jarod Garamonde
Jolly Codgers
Get Off My Lawn
#127 - 2013-05-10 02:58:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Jarod Garamonde
Asmodai Xodai wrote:
Jarod Garamonde wrote:

Nope... I looked you up on Battleclinic, before commenting.
You have zero kills and 12 losses. Not a single one of your losses was much of a combat ship. Most of the ships you've flown are mining ships.


Then you are either a liar, or your data is faulty, because I am looking at my combat log right now, and it says more than 12 losses, and more than 0 kills, not that either statistics means anything in either regard.



Battleclinic is tied to your API. It always tells the truth, even when you edit yourself into a corpy's killmail for a third-party killboard.
Furthermore... I have no reason to lie, and I find it rather self-demeaning of you to accuse me of lying.
I don't pull this out very often... but you're a 3 1/2-month old nooblet who has foolishly moved out into nullsec WAY before he's ready for it. Evidenced by your overall attitude. And, you're starting a pissing contest about the way EVE works, with one of CCP's earliest paying customers. Don't even try to patronize me. My "employment history" may not say 2003, but I assure you, I remember what this game was like, before there were T2 ships.

And, since you were so rude to me. Here's your Battleclinic record, since you're obviously too window-licker to know your own mistakes. Or is your own poor judgement and lack of situational awareness all a PvPer's fault, too?

http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=Asmodai+Xodai#losses

That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...

    [#savethelance]
Asmodai Xodai
#128 - 2013-05-10 03:06:52 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
Jarod Garamonde wrote:


Battleclinic is tied to your API. It always tells the truth, even when you edit yourself into a corpy's killmail for a third-party killboard.

http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=Asmodai+Xodai#losses


What the frak are you talking about - 'editing yourself into a corpy's killmail?'
Removed a personal attack. -ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
Kurt Saken
Star Cluster Wanderer
#129 - 2013-05-10 03:07:27 UTC
Why join a null sec corp if you are not going to get in fleets for pvp, or hunting people as you say. I did it a few days back, looking for explosions, and now i'm a happy pilot.

Get in a fleet, undock, make friends and have some fun.
Jarod Garamonde
Jolly Codgers
Get Off My Lawn
#130 - 2013-05-10 03:12:37 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
Asmodai Xodai wrote:
Jarod Garamonde wrote:


Battleclinic is tied to your API. It always tells the truth, even when you edit yourself into a corpy's killmail for a third-party killboard.

Furthermore... I have no reason to lie, and I find it rather self-demeaning of you to accuse me of lying.
I don't pull this out very often... but you're a 3 1/2-month old nooblet who has foolishly moved out into nullsec WAY before he's ready for it. Evidenced by your overall attitude. And, you're starting a pissing contest about the way EVE works, with one of CCP's earliest paying customers. Don't even try to patronize me. My "employment history" may not say 2003, but I assure you, I remember what this game was like, before there were T2 ships.

And, since you were so rude to me. Here's your Battleclinic record, since you're obviously too window-licker to know your own mistakes. Or is your own poor judgement and lack of situational awareness all a PvPer's fault, too?

http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=Asmodai+Xodai#losses


What the frak are you talking about - 'editing yourself into a corpy's killmail?'
Removed a personal attack. -ISD Dorrim Barstorlode



You insult powers are as weak as your ability to use your ship's directional scanner.
Also, you have picked a player to attempt to offend who is about third from the bottom of "EVE players it is possible to **** off" list. The only two guys in the whole game world who are less likely to get mad at something you say are NTRabbit and Chribba.

That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...

    [#savethelance]
Asmodai Xodai
#131 - 2013-05-10 03:16:31 UTC
I must say, you forum mods really do a damn fantastic job around here. Just look at what kind of a toilet you've allowed these forums to become. It's a reflection on you, and it's a reflection on CCP.

Congratulations.
Jarod Garamonde
Jolly Codgers
Get Off My Lawn
#132 - 2013-05-10 03:20:13 UTC
Asmodai Xodai wrote:
I must say, you forum mods really do a damn fantastic job around here. Just look at what kind of a toilet you've allowed these forums to become. It's a reflection on you, and it's a reflection on CCP.

Congratulations.


Dude, I started off defending you, then you turned batcrap psycho on me, when I tried to set you straight after you insulted a large group of forum jockeys.... many of which are bittervets. If anyone's comments need moderation, it's yours.

That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...

    [#savethelance]
Asmodai Xodai
#133 - 2013-05-10 03:23:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Asmodai Xodai
Quote:
And, since you were so rude to me. Here's your Battleclinic record...


So let me get this straight. In some stupid misguided attempt to try to embarrass me, demean me, blackmail me, whatever you call it, you post some 'Battleclinic record', whatever the hell that might be? Do you really think anyone with even a modicum of self worth would give a flying rat's ass what's on some stupid Battleclinic record? Or maybe you can't relate, as maybe you don't have any such self worth?

Go ahead, trollface. Post that battleclinic record 1000 more times. Make some new thread about it on the front page, titled "Asmodai's Battleclinic record." Do it you fuking coward. Show us all how tough and clever you really are.
Jarod Garamonde
Jolly Codgers
Get Off My Lawn
#134 - 2013-05-10 03:25:47 UTC
Asmodai Xodai wrote:
Quote:
And, since you were so rude to me. Here's your Battleclinic record...


So let me get this straight. In some stupid misguided attempt to try to embarrass me, demean me, blackmail me, whatever you call it, you post some 'Battleclinic record', whatever the hell that might be? Do you really think anyone with even a modicum of self worth would give a flying rat's ass what's on some stupid Battleclinic record? Or maybe you can't relate, as maybe you don't have any such self worth?

Go ahead, trollface. Post that battleclinic record 1000 more times. Make some new thread about it on the front page, titled "Asmodai's Battleclinic record." Do it you fuking coward.


Dude.... who urinated in your corn flakes? You lost a 300k frigate and some T1 modules to one guy with a destroyer, and you're raging like someone broke into your house, kicked your dog, drank all your beer, and tracked mud on your couch.

This ain't worth my rum buzz. I'm out. Done trying to help you.

ISD someone.... please lock this, before this nublet embarasses himself, any further....

That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...

    [#savethelance]
Haulie Berry
#135 - 2013-05-10 03:26:40 UTC
Jarod Garamonde wrote:


Battleclinic is tied to your API. It always tells the truth, even when you edit yourself into a corpy's killmail for a third-party killboard.


You seem to be confused about how killboards and the API work, in general. They don't magically get API access by virtue of the fact that they exist.

Rayzilla Zaraki
Yin Jian Enterprises
#136 - 2013-05-10 03:35:20 UTC
Some people just like to watch it all burn. Shocked

Gate campers are just Carebears with anger issues.

Jarod Garamonde
Jolly Codgers
Get Off My Lawn
#137 - 2013-05-10 03:41:44 UTC
Haulie Berry wrote:
Jarod Garamonde wrote:


Battleclinic is tied to your API. It always tells the truth, even when you edit yourself into a corpy's killmail for a third-party killboard.


You seem to be confused about how killboards and the API work, in general. They don't magically get API access by virtue of the fact that they exist.




It's funny you say that, because that's exactly how Battleclinic has been working for me, for years now.

That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...

    [#savethelance]
Haulie Berry
#138 - 2013-05-10 03:55:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Haulie Berry
Jarod Garamonde wrote:
Haulie Berry wrote:
Jarod Garamonde wrote:


Battleclinic is tied to your API. It always tells the truth, even when you edit yourself into a corpy's killmail for a third-party killboard.


You seem to be confused about how killboards and the API work, in general. They don't magically get API access by virtue of the fact that they exist.




It's funny you say that, because that's exactly how Battleclinic has been working for me, for years now.


Yeah, you have your head pretty far up your ass (per usual). If Alice has not handed over an API key to BC, and Bob has, and Alice kills Bob, the kill will populate on BC. If Frank has also not handed over an API key to BC, and Bob kills Frank, it's not going to show up on BC, because it's not magic - BC is not possessed of some all-seeing eye that instantly knows about every combat transaction in the Eve universe.

The end result is that even without giving an API key to a given killboard, you CAN have quite a few of your kill/loss mails on there, by virtue of the fact that your victims have given them an API, or even just by being on a killmail where the person who scored the KB had set up an API.

That aside, we can quite plainly see that the OP, true to his claim, has API verified kills and losses on other killboards that are not shown on BC. One would think, at a minimum, that you might have at least paused a moment to check that before running your mouth like an imbecile.

Oh, wait. Scratch that last bit. I just remembered that you're the guy who "tested" Erotica 1 for, uhm... science! And the children! And blogging!
Asmodai Xodai
#139 - 2013-05-10 04:05:02 UTC
Haulie Berry wrote:

Yeah, you have your head pretty far up your ass (per usual). If Alice has not handed over an API key to BC, and Bob has, and Alice kills Bob, the kill will populate on BC. If Frank has also not handed over an API key to BC, and Bob kills Frank, it's not going to show up on BC, because it's not magic - BC is not possessed of some all-seeing eye that instantly knows about every combat transaction in the Eve universe.

The end result is that even without giving an API key to a given killboard, you CAN have quite a few of your kill/loss mails on there, by virtue of the fact that your victims have given them an API, or even just by being on a killmail where the person who scored the KB had set up an API.

That aside, we can quite plainly see that the OP, true to his claim, has API verified kills and losses on other killboards that are not shown on BC. One would think, at a minimum, that you might have at least paused a moment to check that before running your mouth like an imbecile.


The site he linked doesn't even have the loss this thread is about, which is THE LOSS OF A DRAKE. The damn fool apparently thinks we are discussing the loss of a frigate to a destroyer, which, assuming it even happened, must have happened so long ago that I don't even remember it.

I think some people have such a lust for troll that they come crashing into threads foaming at the mouth without even knowing what the topic of the thread is.
Jarod Garamonde
Jolly Codgers
Get Off My Lawn
#140 - 2013-05-10 04:06:04 UTC
Haulie Berry wrote:
Jarod Garamonde wrote:
Haulie Berry wrote:
Jarod Garamonde wrote:


Battleclinic is tied to your API. It always tells the truth, even when you edit yourself into a corpy's killmail for a third-party killboard.


You seem to be confused about how killboards and the API work, in general. They don't magically get API access by virtue of the fact that they exist.




It's funny you say that, because that's exactly how Battleclinic has been working for me, for years now.


Yeah, you have your head pretty far up your ass (per usual). If Alice has not handed over an API key to BC, and Bob has, and Alice kills Bob, the kill will populate on BC. If Frank has also not handed over an API key to BC, and Bob kills Frank, it's not going to show up on BC, because it's not magic - BC is not possessed of some all-seeing eye that instantly knows about every combat transaction in the Eve universe.

The end result is that even without giving an API key to a given killboard, you CAN have quite a few of your kill/loss mails on there, by virtue of the fact that your victims have given them an API, or even just by being on a killmail where the person who scored the KB had set up an API.

That aside, we can quite plainly see that the OP, true to his claim, has API verified kills and losses on other killboards that are not shown on BC. One would think, at a minimum, that you might have at least paused a moment to check that before running your mouth like an imbecile.

Oh, wait. Scratch that last bit. I just remembered that you're the guy who "tested" Erotica 1 for, uhm... science! And the children! And blogging!



Yeah.... insult me some more, because internet spaceships are serious business. Go re-evaluate your life. Smoke a bowl, and learn to be a more happy person.

Also, you're mostly wrong about how Battleclinic works, for the record.

That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...

    [#savethelance]