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Best neut ship for WH's?
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Wander Prian
Nosferatu Security Foundation
#21 - 2013-05-09 07:15:39 UTC
It's gonna have about 10km more range on heavy neuts than a Bhaal and about the same range as a lvl5 recon curse with medium neuts. The thing to remember is that the bonus is to range and not amount, so while you get good range at a pretty cheap price, it's not gonna pack the same punch as curse/legion/bhaal.

Wormholer for life.
Fassin-Taak
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#22 - 2013-05-09 08:09:48 UTC
No ofc it won't pack the same punch but a full rack of large neuts will still **** anything sub cap in seconds. Well worth it for the price I think.
Wander Prian
Nosferatu Security Foundation
#23 - 2013-05-09 08:57:24 UTC
Well... Come odyssey it's gonna go up in price to around where abaddon is atm... Though it's gonna be a great choice for starting neuters.

When you talk about wh-pvp, you usually want a ship that has the best effectiveness to mass- ratio. So if you bring a BS, you really want it to do something well as supposed to bringing a Tech3 or a BC. Another thing to notice about BS versus a tech-3 is that the BS is gonna be hit HARD. It's a big ship and an easy target, but if you don't expect to be hitting capitals, the geddon is gonna be a nice ship to have. Since we are all wormholers and we are famously space-rich, my personal favourites are a Bhaal and a neutlegion, though there's a special place in my heart for the pilgrim and curse as well.... Gonna be interesting to see how the geddon is gonna work out as a neuter.

Wormholer for life.
Britta Nolen
Sama Guild
#24 - 2013-05-09 09:11:15 UTC
i need to buy some geddons. Coming soon, 5 geddons and 25 sentries. :D
Fassin-Taak
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#25 - 2013-05-09 09:15:44 UTC
Yeah I totaly agree mate. Id rather have a neut legion or bhaal in fleet any day. The geddon just seems to fit with what the OP was asking for. The prophecy could be used as a low mass alternative I suppose if you don't have logi to keep a curse alive for more than 10 seconds but it probably wouldn't be worth it imo. The New geddon will probably be best suited for small fleets that don't want to risk the sp/isk loss from losing a legion/bhaal fighting in their home system
Tsukihi Phoenix
Shadow Legion Y
Seriously Suspicious
#26 - 2013-05-09 10:26:47 UTC
Thanks for the replies, it seems that logi as opposed to neuts is the better choice. Originally this was our plan, but after a mean encounter with a bunch of jamming/neut scorps (**** you guys, seriously. no honor sometimes. XD) we were thinking maybe a couple of neut ships to cap out their ecm/neuts while our t3's tore them up. i s'pose the only threats to a logi group are bhaal/legions, which we don't seem to run into too often.

after crunching numbers anyways, it came out that a neut legion is something like 3 times as effective as a pilgrim/curse, considering a recon will probs get blown up every fight.

-Tsuki
grassy 420
Anoikis Equilibrium
Honorable Third Party
#27 - 2013-05-09 10:31:08 UTC  |  Edited by: grassy 420
bhalgorn and nuet legion..
bahlgorn for caps

neut legion is hi's all nuets. lows all tank. mids. 1 point cap booster an AB.
my friend tested that fit on my proteus .. neuted me out to 0 in 2 cycles after i was at zero cap he only needed to keep 1 on me to keep it dry. its a nice alternative agaist the bhaalgorn. a lil faster geared towerds non cap warfare. don't think it was super pricey either. but you may have to do some pimping to fit what you need based on fitting skills
Wander Prian
Nosferatu Security Foundation
#28 - 2013-05-09 10:41:20 UTC
Talking from personal experience:

Bhaals don't do so well against blabdreads.... You can survive one, but 2 will kill you for sure. I ended up sitting at just the right spot for a moros to go full on assault on me a few months ago... I'd been dead in a heartbeat if it hadn't been for our friendly archon... Even with archon my armor kept jumping between 5-100% armor every time the moros shot me and the reps landed.

2 neutlegions are roughly the same as a bhaalgorn when it comes to neuts and the legions have the added benefit of being harder to kill by caps than the Bhaal.

ECM-scorps are always a PITA to deal with, especially if you don't have your own ECM. When building your fleet, go for logi first, then add the force multipliers of ECM/neuts/damps

Wormholer for life.
DrBmN
Lippstadt Creed
Solyaris Chtonium
#29 - 2013-05-09 23:39:02 UTC
Cloaky neut buffer legion.
chris elliot
Treasury Department
Plug N Play
#30 - 2013-05-09 23:58:51 UTC
If you are flying without logi, use a curse and learn to kite.
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