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Lirka Nill
Absolute Order XL
Absolute Honor
#1 - 2013-05-09 20:04:55 UTC
With all the talk of immersion being important in Odyssey, but there's one thing I hope get's improved soon: The skybox.
Now I don't mean the nebulae, because they're very beautiful pictures. But that's just it, they're pictures of space pasted on a box/cube. Heck, I can SEE the edges of the skybox, so I don't feel like I'm flying in space, I feel like I'm in a box.... cause I am.

Isn't there a way to modernize the skyboxes? give them some more effects with depth or something? Or why not remove the skyboxes entirely, and just keep the nebulae and stars(since a lot of them are seperate from the skybox pictures it seems). Space should feel infinite when you stare into it, not a picture you look at. Right now some of the nebulae are beginning to look low res. They look better and sharper in Dust though... not sure if those are different or if it's just my tv.

I might be the only person complaining about this, but it seems kinda important in a space game.
Then again, the edges of the skybox are one of those "once seen they cannot be unseen" things...
Rented
Hunter Heavy Industries
#2 - 2013-05-09 22:22:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Rented
It just took me like 10 minutes of staring at my screen from 6 inches away to find the 1 pixel thick mild-disturbance caused by one of the seams. I was unable to see any more than that single seam despite knowing exactly where some connecting seams should be. I don't know what's wrong with your graphics to make it even remotely easily visible.



Thanks for the eye strain bro.


Edit- I found 3 more! I'm filled with a profound sense of anti-accomplishment.
Kirimeena D'Zbrkesbris
Republic Military Tax Avoiders
#3 - 2013-05-09 22:33:10 UTC
Rented wrote:
It just took me like 10 minutes of staring at my screen from 6 inches away to find the 1 pixel thick mild-disturbance caused by one of the seams. I was unable to see any more than that single seam despite knowing exactly where some connecting seams should be. I don't know what's wrong with your graphics to make it even remotely easily visible.



Thanks for the eye strain bro.


Edit- I found 3 more! I'm filled with a profound sense of anti-accomplishment.

Well you dont see those seams that often, but when you do - they break all immersion. I think i do have some screenshots with "corners" of said "box"

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Domanique Altares
Rifterlings
#4 - 2013-05-09 22:35:44 UTC
Kirimeena D'Zbrkesbris wrote:
Rented wrote:
It just took me like 10 minutes of staring at my screen from 6 inches away to find the 1 pixel thick mild-disturbance caused by one of the seams. I was unable to see any more than that single seam despite knowing exactly where some connecting seams should be. I don't know what's wrong with your graphics to make it even remotely easily visible.



Thanks for the eye strain bro.


Edit- I found 3 more! I'm filled with a profound sense of anti-accomplishment.

Well you dont see those seams that often, but when you do - they break all immersion. I think i do have some screenshots with "corners" of said "box"


Graphics problems aside, how immersed do you really get? At no point do I ever feel like I'm blasting through space in a tub full of pod goo, thinking commands to my ship through a series of needles shoved into the back of my head and my spine.
Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2013-05-09 22:49:36 UTC
Domanique Altares wrote:
Kirimeena D'Zbrkesbris wrote:
Rented wrote:
It just took me like 10 minutes of staring at my screen from 6 inches away to find the 1 pixel thick mild-disturbance caused by one of the seams. I was unable to see any more than that single seam despite knowing exactly where some connecting seams should be. I don't know what's wrong with your graphics to make it even remotely easily visible.



Thanks for the eye strain bro.


Edit- I found 3 more! I'm filled with a profound sense of anti-accomplishment.

Well you dont see those seams that often, but when you do - they break all immersion. I think i do have some screenshots with "corners" of said "box"


Graphics problems aside, how immersed do you really get? At no point do I ever feel like I'm blasting through space in a tub full of pod goo, thinking commands to my ship through a series of needles shoved into the back of my head and my spine.

Thats not really the kind of immersion EVE asks or tries for.

seeing these boxes can remind you that EVE is just a game, that you play, which makes youc are less about the things you do, adn often the people you play with. heavy emotional immersion, emans the world as its presented must be believable, you need to feel like your interactions with somebody might matter, beig constantly reminded with visual cues that its a game that doesnt matter encourages alot of the asshattery in EVE.

TL;DR, you dont need to feel like you are your character to be immersed, you jsut need to feel like the world is living, breathing, and that it matters, something which horrid visual cues you notice can harm.
Xavier Thorm
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#6 - 2013-05-09 23:03:33 UTC
I've really never had a problem with the skyboxes, and since they were just updated rather recently I don't expect we'll be seeing them change again too soon.
Dori Tos
Doomheim
#7 - 2013-05-10 11:38:53 UTC
Yeah let's say the game becomes fully immersing,With even Occulus support and let say you have one of those crazy gaming setups with a chair that moves with the direction of your ship and vibrates when a missile hits you and you know..all that crazy stuff.

Then you take a look at the chat window... people trolling or linking Youtube videos and imgur pictures in local.When you hop on comms for some pew pew you hear drunk people talking about whats going on in that real life world that you are trying to escape...What I'm saying is,if what you want is immersion, don't look for it in a MMO, it's just not going to happen,ever.

Although I have to say I'm all for GFX improvements.And CCP has been giving us TONS of those recently,with the V3 ships,the nebulae,new station interiors ect..Skybox? might happen sometimes

I'm delicious.
Velicitia
XS Tech
#8 - 2013-05-10 14:06:28 UTC
Domanique Altares wrote:

Graphics problems aside, how immersed do you really get? At no point do I ever feel like I'm blasting through space in a tub full of pod goo, thinking commands to my ship through a series of needles shoved into the back of my head and my spine.


play eve whilst getting acupuncture.

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Vassal Zeren
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2013-05-10 18:00:00 UTC
Domanique Altares wrote:
Kirimeena D'Zbrkesbris wrote:
Rented wrote:
It just took me like 10 minutes of staring at my screen from 6 inches away to find the 1 pixel thick mild-disturbance caused by one of the seams. I was unable to see any more than that single seam despite knowing exactly where some connecting seams should be. I don't know what's wrong with your graphics to make it even remotely easily visible.



Thanks for the eye strain bro.


Edit- I found 3 more! I'm filled with a profound sense of anti-accomplishment.

Well you dont see those seams that often, but when you do - they break all immersion. I think i do have some screenshots with "corners" of said "box"


Graphics problems aside, how immersed do you really get? At no point do I ever feel like I'm blasting through space in a tub full of pod goo, thinking commands to my ship through a series of needles shoved into the back of my head and my spine.



If you want immersion press control F9. I wish you could actually play the game like that... Someday... maybe.

A bad analogy is like a leaky screwdriver.
Anais Javn
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2013-05-10 22:39:39 UTC
I'd prefer an option to have the skyboxes dim/blacken if you are looking at the system's sun or near a brightly lit planet. No matter how advanced your camera drones are/other hurf blurf; you should not be able to look directly at a star (or even the daylight side of a planet) and see a nebula that's light years away behind it. YMMV, but for me that more of an immersion breaker; it make the game feel as if I am flying in a giant fish tank.
Lirka Nill
Absolute Order XL
Absolute Honor
#11 - 2013-05-11 10:07:04 UTC
Anais Javn wrote:
I'd prefer an option to have the skyboxes dim/blacken if you are looking at the system's sun or near a brightly lit planet. No matter how advanced your camera drones are/other hurf blurf; you should not be able to look directly at a star (or even the daylight side of a planet) and see a nebula that's light years away behind it. YMMV, but for me that more of an immersion breaker; it make the game feel as if I am flying in a giant fish tank.

That's actually a pretty awesome idea. And it makes sense.
Though some eve vets couldn't care less about these options, it's the newcomers that will notice most. It was actually a friend who I gave a trial code that pointed out the skybox issue after a day of playing. Even though I already knew, I was surprised how important it was to him (that and flying, not warping, through a planet/sun). First impressions I guess. With all the other games out there, eve should be the best space game it can be.