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1600 RT
#1 - 2013-05-09 11:04:08 UTC
why everyone is using blasters on their gnosis?
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#2 - 2013-05-09 11:12:39 UTC
1600 RT wrote:
why everyone is using blasters on their gnosis?


BECAUSE MAX DPS WITH VOID IS ALL THAT MATTERS IN PEEVEEPEE

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Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#3 - 2013-05-09 11:12:51 UTC
Prettier colours.

Oh god.
Caitlyn Tufy
Perkone
Caldari State
#4 - 2013-05-09 11:57:29 UTC
Because EFT numbers > all.
Zan Shiro
Doomheim
#5 - 2013-05-09 12:57:56 UTC
they are plannng ahead for te "nerf" lol.....
Josilin du Guesclin
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2013-05-09 13:37:49 UTC
I have no idea. I think that lasers + shield tank is much cooler.
Ginger Barbarella
#7 - 2013-05-09 13:46:59 UTC
1600 RT wrote:
why everyone is using blasters on their gnosis?


EVERYONE is?? Really? Curious how you know "everyone" is using blasters...

I'm not on any of the fits I've made, so... you're full of crap? Just a thought...

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Hakaimono
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2013-05-09 14:40:06 UTC
Must be faster for blasterz.
I would actually use autos for mine. Capless weapons rock.
Crellion
Nano Rhinos
PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
#9 - 2013-05-09 14:43:05 UTC
Hakaimono wrote:
Must be faster for blasterz.
I would actually use autos for mine. Capless weapons rock.


That they do but on a vessel with enough mids for at least 2 x injectors and 1k cargo... might feel a bit silly to forego 20% dps for no cap usage. Innit?
Cephelange du'Krevviq
Gildinous Vangaurd
The Initiative.
#10 - 2013-05-09 17:05:57 UTC
You don't specify for PvE or PvP (though if I had to guess it'd be for PvP). Since I don't plan on using mine in PvP, I did work up a couple PvE fits.

[Gnosis, Cognition]
Damage Control II
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

Cap Recharger II
Thermic Dissipation Field II
Kinetic Deflection Field II
Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner
Dread Guristas Large Shield Booster
5a Prototype Shield Support I

Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Antimatter Charge M
[empty high slot]

Medium Semiconductor Memory Cell I
Medium Semiconductor Memory Cell I
Medium Semiconductor Memory Cell I

Hobgoblin II x5
Hammerhead II x5

EFT image with my skills: http://i.imgur.com/YoLKQqm.png?1


[Gnosis, Knowledge]
Damage Control II
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II

Cap Recharger II
Kinetic Deflection Field II
Thermic Dissipation Field II
Dread Guristas Large Shield Booster
5a Prototype Shield Support I
Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner

425mm AutoCannon II, Phased Plasma M
425mm AutoCannon II, Phased Plasma M
425mm AutoCannon II, Phased Plasma M
425mm AutoCannon II, Phased Plasma M
425mm AutoCannon II, Phased Plasma M
[empty high slot]

Medium Semiconductor Memory Cell I
Medium Semiconductor Memory Cell I
Medium Semiconductor Memory Cell I

Hobgoblin II x5
Hammerhead II x5

EFT image with my skills: http://i.imgur.com/fY8ftgd.png?1

"Paper" DPs difference is about 200 (blasters do more, of course). You do have a larger engagement envelope with the ACs and it's cap stable. YMMV, of course.

"I am a leaf on the...ah, frak it!"
Hakaimono
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2013-05-09 19:12:22 UTC
Crellion wrote:
Hakaimono wrote:
Must be faster for blasterz.
I would actually use autos for mine. Capless weapons rock.


That they do but on a vessel with enough mids for at least 2 x injectors and 1k cargo... might feel a bit silly to forego 20% dps for no cap usage. Innit?

For pve sure. I was thinking of pvp.
Kasutra
No Vacancies
No Vacancies.
#12 - 2013-05-09 19:24:56 UTC
Autos are OP?

Until recently, a lot of overly powerful ships in each class used ACs, but with the exception of the Mach and the Cynabal, they have either been nerfed (hi, Hurricane) or had stuff around them buffed (hi, Rifter). Autos themselves OP? Not convinced.
Verity Sovereign
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2013-05-09 20:54:57 UTC
#1) I think the premise of the question is wrong, because I do see a lot of projectile fits

#2) Assuming its right: because the Gnosis is new, unique, and this people are fail fitting it
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#14 - 2013-05-09 22:12:00 UTC
Also Auto's weren't OP

Ships that had PG to fit Arties but used AC's instead were OP.

Also TD's were..

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The Troll Bridge
#15 - 2013-05-09 22:22:08 UTC
I wish someone would have sent out a mail or something notifying the eve community that Autocannons are OP.

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Dato Koppla
Spaghetti Militia
#16 - 2013-05-09 23:03:38 UTC
It's the combination of Minmatar being the fastest and TEs allowing even ships without range bonuses to kite everything else. However the speed gap has been closed, everything else has been buffed while minmatar ships received little buffs, so it was never autos that were OP it was just the position autos were in together with the ships that used them, that's changing fast though, can't wait till they burn the Cynabal and Mach into the ground like they did the Dram.
sabre906
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2013-05-10 00:42:31 UTC
Autos weren't OP, silly, it's Winmatar speed that's OP. Speaking of speed and Gnosis...Lol
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#18 - 2013-05-10 00:48:42 UTC
Dato Koppla wrote:
It's the combination of Minmatar being the fastest and TEs allowing even ships without range bonuses to kite everything else. However the speed gap has been closed, everything else has been buffed while minmatar ships received little buffs, so it was never autos that were OP it was just the position autos were in together with the ships that used them, that's changing fast though, can't wait till they burn the Cynabal and Mach into the ground like they did the Dram.


If you think the Dramiel is bad now then you are really really bad.

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God's Apples
Wilderness
IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
#19 - 2013-05-10 00:54:54 UTC
I find it funny how people still think that, with the rare exceptions, people kite with ACs and that it's OP in anyway.

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Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#20 - 2013-05-10 01:02:53 UTC
ACs havent been OP for years.

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