Science & Industry

Only if you have the chops.......The way I see it their is no easy money. Instead we have smart money.

Don't expect any "get rich quick" insider tips from the forums. Expect disinformation masked in sarcasm.

Just keep playing and figure it out......That is the only sure way to carve out your billions.

What are you going to spend your untold billions on if you only log in 1hr a day?

Basically i have 2 accounts, 1 my pvp guy and another one my money guy, i want to play my pvp guy few hours a day and my money guy 1h :P so ill spend the untold billions on my pvp guy

I think you are underestimating how long it will take you to purchase, build, move, and sell items. Especially when valued in the billions.

This really should be stressed. People on the forums like to understate their work level and time invested in manufacturing.

You could queue up invention jobs in your 1hr. But buying, hauling and calculating what you need will take a longer time at least one day every so often.

what is station trading?

The more billions you have, the easier it is to do it solo.

3 accounts = 9 characters.

Baby them up enough for PI.

Get them in with a friend in a C4.


Profit.

Industrialism done solo is for most part station trading. Buy raws/sell your product.

I guess you missed it, but the most pertinent advice in this thread was to use contracts (and freight corps like Red Frog) to move goods, saving you a LOT of (game) time slow-boating from station to station with a hauler (god-forbid you find out what it is to round-trip several times in a freighter).

In sum the commentary has been more or less accurate. You are (to some extent) "better off station trading," in the sense that your time window precludes a lot of moving around in order to get things done. Having said that, a couple of strategic jump clones can allow you to supplement your income with industry.

A few other tips:
1. If you find yourself with excess time or the desire to leave your station (fear not well-heeled station traders, I am only speaking hypothetically) you'll do well to work on your faction standing and corporate standing with the stations you frequent. This reduces the amount of taxes and fees you pay per transaction. There's a gent over in the mission/complex forum who's got a rather decent guide to this by the name of DeMichael Crimson.

2. The biggest rookie mistake in trading is to ignore volume and/or turnover. If you can't do anything for weeks because you're 100% invested in something that will take another month to sell then chances are you'll get bored or liquidate for a loss. Pay close attention to markets with more churn (active buying and selling on a daily, or better-yet hourly, basis) and find a place where you can nose in on the action.

3. Patch speculation is out of your league, but "going with the flow," and trying to pick up goods that are trending up (and selling them soon after so as to avoid the inevitable correction downward) is a remarkably easy way to introduce yourself to more speculative or methodical trading, which will be your bread and butter if you make it past the first few billion benchmark.

4. You have two available character slots on your account which can easily be filled with alts of a few million sp. These don't take long to train up and will dramatically increase your ability to expand your business. Use them to monitor prices in other high-volume regions, order goods that are cheaper there, or sell good which you can build or acquire cheaper elsewhere. The only caveat: inter-regional trading is much more time-consuming than station trading. So if you find that hour is used up quickly working your one character, you probably won't get much out of a trained alt. Still, an untrained alt in Amarr and Rens (assuming your main is in Jita) would be very much worth having from the standpoint of information gathering alone.