EVE General Discussion

You ever spawned in EvE with all your stuff still intact?

Specious argument.

"Your move... Not bad, but you suck."
"What?"
"Your mother wears army boots."
"Dude!"
"Hey, don't get upset. It's just a game."
"See the board? That's the game."
"Your tears are delicious."
"Yeah, right."
"Hey, look over there!"
"What?... Dude, you stole one of my pieces."
"Yeah. I posted about it in C&P too."
"Give me the piece back."
"No. It's part of the mechanics. It was just sitting there."
"This is Conquest, Dude. You can't do that."
"HTFU."
"Screw this!"
"Ha-ha. I win."
"OK, fine, but is it OK if I never trust you again?"
"It's just a game, Dude. Let's go grab a beer."
"It was just a game — could have been just a game."
"Don't take it personally."
"How do I take it, since there was no game? There was an agreement to have a game. I remember that."
"That's the game, bud. I get to screw you over."
"But only when we agree on a game within the game. Is that it?"
"Yeah."
"So, we'll never agree on anything like 'how it's supposed to be' while in this larger game? Right?"
"Well, if you're a doofus you can try."
"Is the game really over?"
"What?"
"Is the game really over to go get that beer? Or are you just going to pee in it?... Well? Don't just sit there smiling. Say something."
"Ha. You're catching on, bud."
"OK, fine, and you not being an asshat begins where... ?"
"Oh, I don't know. Maybe when you get me in your corporation."
"... I've just figured something out."
"What?"
"The game is trust — silly, I know... Anyway, I think I'll skip that beer, man. Thanks, though."
"Sure... Later, bud."
"Yeah. Later."

There is one major difference between you and I. I know this is a game and play it accordingly.

Ahh so a game where you are shooting people has no moral basis. I'm glad it's so easy to pick and choose, when to hold up the moral high ground card.

I don't fear it and actually didn't say I did. I also don't much care what they think. If they want to play the victim and feel offended, then that's there issue to deal with not mine.

Whereas I play a game and you don't seem to be able to differentiate between actions in that and those of RL.

Much like the moral and ethical one, in regards to actions within a game.

I think that's fine, but I also think there's a trade-off in that one shouldn't expect the other person to ever just "drop the game" and supposedly relate in friendly terms to the person who ripped him off. In simple conversation, sure, but that person will have set the tone of what to expect from him in-game. He chose not to bring his possibly decent RL-outlook into the game and so-be it. If losing that possible trust is no big deal (which in the majority of cases it surely isn't) then I don't see a problem. The predator gets some loot and the victim gets to know what to expect from him the next time.

To each its own. Game is an game is an game. Tho feeling from your action is "REAL", unless you take it on different level and then you dont play this game as an game you actually dont play you calculate.



Well game you describe / fps / can be played against bots and be about same fun. You play with people for competition, on somewhat leveled field. You dont kill for the sake of killing you are killed and kill and if possible improve your strategy/tactics. Unless its deathmatch free for all when you actually dont require people to have the same level of "fun" you can as easily play against bots.




If "you" chose to play an sociopath, someone with skill and experience to be executed on spot even before kids because he is to dangerous to wait for other opportunity, its your issue to deal with not mine. Think about it.. / disclaimer : It isnt oriented against you and you alone, its oriented to the kind people of EVE who "extract tears and have childish fun doing it."



viz first respond.

Much like the moral and ethical one, in regards to actions within a game. [/quote]

As per second respond.. / difference is indeed in game .

I love how the griefers just tend to run the debate in circles because they can't seem to admit that acting like a bully in game is no better than acting like one out of game.

I don't think anyone will debate that EVE is a kill or be killed game, nor will we say that you should not engage in PVP when you want to, what we are saying is that you probably should cool it on the personal insults against the players.

Is that too much for you griefers to process? Do you need us to spell it out any more plainly?


We don't care if you kill other players, just don't be a jerk about it and "extract tears" because that turns the whole event from being about blowing up internet spaceships to harassing the other player.

I guess you are cool with that though...because you are all dark and evil and nobody understands your pain.

I can understand where you're comming from and somewhat sympathise with the lone miner in a retriever in high-sec getting suicide ganked because he was just unlucky enough to be there. But EVE has never pretended to be anything other than a sharks game where the scumbag is more likely to be successful than the nice guy. I can only tell you this: It's a mistake to take this game too seriously or invest emotionally in it. It is after all a game, being good or bad at it proves nothing in the real world and if you get upset or over excited about something in the game, you really have to re-examine your life.

did they laugh at your lack of chin and huge cheeks?

To hell with morality!

Click the link in my sig for an event of total immorality....

Dont take it too personally ...

You do it because its yours internal agenda. You/your alliance got certein advantages from what you do... And even if they dont i dont see you as an person who would do it just to humiliate your prey afterwards, unless the person afterwards start the word fight than its kind of self defense.

If you read through this thread you will find some interesting "ideas, explanations" not necessarily true to every "ganker, extractor of tears" but certainly for some.