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Violence against Mimatar citizens reported in Federation

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TomHorn
Horn Brothers Holdings Inc.
#1 - 2013-05-08 15:19:47 UTC  |  Edited by: TomHorn
http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/violence-against-minmatar-immigrants-reported-in-federation/

Hours after the Republic Fleet launched an incursion into the Gallente Federation, numerous incidences of violence against Minmatar immigrants to the Federation were reported to law enforcement agencies. These incidents have ranged from simple assault to murder, all perpetrated by ethnic Gallente.

Police suspect many of the attacks were racially motivated. They do not believe the incidents are directly connected, but are rather treating them as separate reactions to the Republic's rising belligerence toward the Federation.

Several of the victims have reported their attackers hurled racial epithets. One victim, who was hospitalized with lacerations to the face and torso, told police that he was “walking down the street when three Gallente men grabbed me and began attacking me. I tried to defend myself, but I was overpowered and they threw me down, called me a spy for the Republic, and asked if it felt good to help kill all those innocent Navy men.” The victim was reportedly saved when a passerby, himself an ethnic Gallente, shouted that he was calling the police.

Law enforcement is suggesting that Minmatar immigrants exercise caution in the coming weeks, to not go out after dark alone, and to lock their doors and windows. Several jurisdictions have reported they are increasing patrols through Minmatar neighborhoods in an attempt to prevent further violence, though some Minmatar have also reported being stopped and searched by police.

Several arrests have been made in relation to the incidents, with police following leads in numerous others.
Halete
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2013-05-08 15:26:05 UTC
I'm continuously disgusted by you all.

And here I was hoping to calm down and overcome my anger.

This week is not helping.

"To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin" - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 13:21

Fredfredbug4
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2013-05-08 15:28:51 UTC
As someone who has been victimized of racial prejudice (lets just say things got messy for Gallente in the State after the Malkalen Incident and Heth took power) I can say violence against the Minmatar as a race is not the answer, nor even as a political entity.

We must show we are better than the backstabbing Republic. The Minmatar are our brethren, just not their government.

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Jowen Datloran
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#4 - 2013-05-08 15:31:12 UTC
Hm, rising tensions indeed. Why anyone would immigrate to the Federation in the first place is beyond my comprehension.

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Narcisa De Fontaine
Core Medical Group
#5 - 2013-05-08 16:11:18 UTC
This makes me feel so sick. All of this hatred is set to spread and perpetuate itself like ripples skittering on a lake after someone has thrown a single stone.

Don't these idiots realize its entirely probable that there were no small number of ethnic Matari killed while defending the Federation's border last night?

Anger is rarely rational, I suppose, if it was we wouldn't be in this mess in the first place.
Emile Belfleur
Solar Zouaves
#6 - 2013-05-08 16:11:53 UTC
I know I have uttered skepticism toward the Federal government before on these boards. I also realize I have drawn criticism for voicing my wish for a more culturally conservative policy on my people's ancestral homeworld. I am abandoning neither of these positions, but I still feel the following needs to be said:

The behavior described in this news report is disgraceful. What the Republic did was inexcusable, but misplaced acts of retaliation against common Federation citizens of Minmatar origin are equally inexcusable. It is, unfortunately, a lesson which lower class street rabble such as these, emboldened by generations of populist mob rule, are painfully slow to learn.

I share the anger and grief at the deaths of the thousands of gallant Navy crewmen yesterday, who did not deserve such a fate at the hands of a nation claiming to be our ally. However, I implore any would-be avengers to pause a minute and consider this question:

How many of those Federal Navy crewmen were themselves Minmatar? How many Minmatar died defending our borders, our sovereignty and our people yesterday?

I do not know the answer. I do not even need to know the answer. The question itself is enough.

We, the Gallente, were not the sole victims of the Republic's attack yesterday. It was an attack on all of the Federation. I call on the common man of Gallente origin to remember that when he walks past the house of his Minmatar neighbor: Remember that he was attacked the same as you. He may have lost loved ones of his own, fighting alongside yours. His grief and his anger are the same as yours.

And to you, Minmatar of the Republic, who pride yourselves on coming for your people, I have this to say: When you invaded us yesterday, when you attacked the ships of our navy, it was your own people you fired on.

Remember that.
Lyn Farel
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#7 - 2013-05-08 16:36:49 UTC
This was expected since the beginning. All models pointed at this, but law enforcement waited for it to actually happen to take supplemental measures.

If authorities are overwhelmed, or unable to fix the situation, or corrupt themselves, then it is to be expected to see Minmatar immigrant arming themselves as a mean of protection, which will in turn help the mob to feel legitimate in what they do.
Caellach Marellus
Stormcrows
#8 - 2013-05-08 17:00:56 UTC
And history repeats itself with civil uprising through senseless and pointless civilian on civilian violence.

Well f##king done people, I hope you're proud of your accomplishments yesterday.

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Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour
#9 - 2013-05-08 17:13:56 UTC
Emile Belfleur wrote:

How many of those Federal Navy crewmen were themselves Minmatar? How many Minmatar died defending our borders, our sovereignty and our people yesterday?


That's actually a very interesting point. I understood a career in the armed forces was quite popular for ethnic Minmatar Federal citizens ?

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Leopold Caine
Stillwater Corporation
#10 - 2013-05-08 17:42:33 UTC
Well, enjoy your precious democracy and all the delusions of safety it brings, I suppose.

Jowen Datloran wrote:
Hm, rising tensions indeed. Why anyone would immigrate to the Federation in the first place is beyond my comprehension.



Try finding a job in the Republic's stale economy; I'm sure you'll realize quickly enough.
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Ston Momaki
Disciples of Ston
#11 - 2013-05-08 17:46:00 UTC
The ripples of violence...

It is often said that capsuleers are "trans-human." While I doubt how this is typically used, let's ponder the idea of "trans." If there is one way that would be good for capsullers to wear that prefix, it would in regard to our blind loyalties that lead to such hateful violence. We say it is all is self-defense, but I say most of it is in "selfish-defense." It is time for capsuleers to "trans"-cend our histories of offence and hatred and to be an example of unity that is possible among sentient beings. Don't call yourself "trans-human" if you are completely incapable of separating yourself from your parochial connections for the greater good of all, even those outside your race or nation.

People, put your safeties back on or this will not end well.

The Disciples of Ston bid you peace

Nicolas Merovech
Doomheim
#12 - 2013-05-08 17:54:33 UTC
Nationalism is the most infantile of diseases, surpassed only by racism.

Dr. Nicolas A. Merovech, Ph. D, M.D.

Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#13 - 2013-05-08 18:15:22 UTC
As Ms. Farel indicates, the question now is how the police will handle this, and how the situation will evolve.

With the Matari violating Federation space, a reprisal by reactionaries and racists should be expected. My suspicion is that if there are similar people in the ranks of the Gallente police forces, then the Matari immigrants will increasingly become a marginalized group. With the existence of ghettos and existing racism as evidenced by the case of the Matari woman who faced difficulty enrolling in a Gallente university, or the Gallente court system's unduly harsh and undiplomatic refusal of the Matari extradition request, this is unlikely to end well unless the powers that be make specific and direct efforts to cool tensions. I would not expect this of either Shakor, Roden, or Blaque.

I expect we will soon begin hearing reports of vigilante justice by Matari, of police crackdowns on Matari neighborhoods, and possibly violence between police and Matari youth. This could result in rioting, which will then be treated as proof by high-minded people that, 'those animals need to be policed harshly.'

And so the house of cards will collapse.

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Morwen Lagann
Tyrathlion Interstellar
#14 - 2013-05-08 18:22:40 UTC
Valerie Valate wrote:
Emile Belfleur wrote:

How many of those Federal Navy crewmen were themselves Minmatar? How many Minmatar died defending our borders, our sovereignty and our people yesterday?


That's actually a very interesting point. I understood a career in the armed forces was quite popular for ethnic Minmatar Federal citizens ?

It is.

Many of the other cadets at the Academy when I was in the capsuleer training program were of some level of Matari origin - most of them were in the other, non-capsule programs due to what I assume to be CONCORD or DED regulations, but Minmatar residents of the Federation do make up a large portion of the armed services.

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Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#15 - 2013-05-08 18:25:23 UTC
The prime responsibility of Law Enforcement is to secure the safety of the body politic - to make a civilisation safe for the majority of its citizens and their property.

The police cannot, in fact, prevent this violence against the Matari segment of the population. They are too numerous and visually distinctive. The best that they can do is attempt to deter the perpetrators.

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Akrasjel Lanate
Immemorial Coalescence Administration
Immemorial Coalescence
#16 - 2013-05-08 19:21:32 UTC
Makoto Priano wrote:
As Ms. Farel indicates, the question now is how the police will handle this, and how the situation will evolve.

With the Matari violating Federation space, a reprisal by reactionaries and racists should be expected. My suspicion is that if there are similar people in the ranks of the Gallente police forces, then the Matari immigrants will increasingly become a marginalized group. With the existence of ghettos and existing racism as evidenced by the case of the Matari woman who faced difficulty enrolling in a Gallente university, or the Gallente court system's unduly harsh and undiplomatic refusal of the Matari extradition request, this is unlikely to end well unless the powers that be make specific and direct efforts to cool tensions. I would not expect this of either Shakor, Roden, or Blaque.

I expect we will soon begin hearing reports of vigilante justice by Matari, of police crackdowns on Matari neighborhoods, and possibly violence between police and Matari youth. This could result in rioting, which will then be treated as proof by high-minded people that, 'those animals need to be policed harshly.'

And so the house of cards will collapse.

You are saying like every Gallente is commiting violence againts the Matari population in the Fed, knowing the media they are blowing this out of proportion and im sure that such thing happened also before the yesterdays event and still be happening after the masses forget about this, simply beacause people are what they are.

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Rosen Thornn
House of Nightshade
#17 - 2013-05-08 19:24:42 UTC
The number of civilian deaths this year has been staggering. When we were only fighting in space our impact was not nearly as great to those on the ground. Now these new immortal mercanieries have brought our wars to the streets. To the people who are the most defenseless and the governments have done nothing.

And now we the Gallente and Minmitar fighting each other, the Caldari are trying to nationalize thier megacrops, and the Empress is more irrational by the day. I fear its going to get worse. This is just the begining.
Jinari Otsito
Otsito Mining and Manufacture
#18 - 2013-05-08 19:44:53 UTC
Any spacer Minnies requiring passage from Fed space to either the Republic or State can drop OTSI a line. We'll see if we can't organize the travel, and possibly even gainful employment should the resumes be attractive.

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Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#19 - 2013-05-08 19:55:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Makoto Priano
Mr. Lanate; I specifically indicated reactionaries and racists. Every populace will have those elements. The question is whether the institutions supporting the population reinforce or combat those tendencies. My comments were based on an assumption -- not unfounded, I believe -- that Gallente institutions no longer combat reactionary or racist tendencies as strongly as Gallente idealists would like to believe.

As regards media, well. I would agree that it is best to not read too deeply into media reports. However, as we do not often get a good picture of what's happening among baseliner populations save through media report, we can't dismiss media reports out-of-hand.

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Grideris
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2013-05-08 20:31:48 UTC
Makoto Priano wrote:
Mr. Lanate; I specifically indicated reactionaries and racists. Every populace will have those elements. The question is whether the institutions supporting the population reinforce or combat those tendencies. My comments were based on an assumption -- not unfounded, I believe -- that Gallente institutions no longer combat reactionary or racist tendencies as strongly as Gallente idealists would like to believe.

As regards media, well. I would agree that it is best to not read too deeply into media reports. However, as we do not often get a good picture of what's happening among baseliner populations save through media report, we can't dismiss media reports out-of-hand.


It is exactly that. An assumption. The way you speak about it, you make it seem like the entire Federation is hell-bent on abusing the Minmatar.

I would also like to remind you that the case you mentioned earlier was about trying to get the Federation to recognise the different tribes as individual ethnic groups rather than as just "Minmatar" after the student in question (a Brutor) had trouble acquiring a scholarship to study engineering due to the "Sebiestor staffed administration office" basically telling her to bugger off and do another subject.

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