Intergalactic Summit

Hypocrites.

The nation that's forcibly invaded, occupied, kidnapped and enslaved billions is calling someone else out? The nation that started wars of aggression against its' own people on Athra and then spread those wars to the stars? Laughable.

The Republic government was wrong for its' actions against the Federation. The vast majority of Minmatar feel this way and are working to figure out how to correct this situation and we WILL correct it.

In the meantime, you hypocritical warmongers in the Empire need to look in a mirror before you attempt to pass judgement on others.

And how long are you going to use that as a free pass? How long are you going to argue that just because it was said by an Amarrian it rings false?

And before you argue 'after every slave is returned' tripe may I remind you that your nations war crimes are mounting quickly and I really don't think you want to be in the possession where people start keeping a tally of your misdeeds and the blood cost they deem fit.

Then again the attack your government launched should already been making you wonder if that's not already the case.

I'm not a slaver. I never went out and captured slaves.

You support the Empire, its government and political institutions, its culture, religion and its "reclaiming" policy do you not? You've fought in support of these things have you not?

In my view, that makes you as guilty of the crime of slavery as the one who rounds up the unfortunate souls and herds them to the transport ships.

But, if it makes you feel better, I'll just refer to you as "imperial" from now on. Happy now?

Anabella, sister, I know you are upset.

Not now, not here. Anything any of us says now will be subject to misinterpretation, scrutiny, and reprisal.

Calm down, please?

CONCORD was there, yes, and did nothing of note.

CONCORD got obliterated when the Minmatarr decided to invade Amarr space.
CONCORD didn't stop the Caldari titan taking position of over Caldari Prime, nor the Gallente taking it down when they decided so.
CONCORD didn't stop the Republic to invade the Federation's sovereign space.

So, tell me, what is it that CONCORD actually does to ensure peace is maintained, as is their mission? As it stands, they fail once and once again...

Not really sure what anyone expects of the Consolidated Corruption and Ransom Command. If CONCORD will take large sums of ISK in exchange for ignoring one or more articles of the Yulai Convention, what's to say it won't take even larger sums to offline a cyno jammer here or there, or shut down a stargate due to, ahem, traffic control, at an inopportune time?

To believe removing the Republic as a member state of this joke of an agreement would mean anything at all is pure foolish naivete.

Much more reasonable for all empires to dissolve this corrupt charter and manage their own space. Could be good times fighting over the hoards of DED ISK and technology.

Even at my least cynical, I believe that each of the empires, between loyal capsuleers and clone soldiers, already have obsoleted CONCORD long ago.

I don't need to know what's in your heart, captain Rella, I know what's in your words. And they are always full of hatred and bitterness against me and my people. Appropriately, with good reasons for it, or not... that I don't know, neither do I care much. We are what we do, and your doing is in your talking in this case.



Where didn't you see my goodwill? When I regretted the loss of a respected person like Karin Midular, of whom I have the highest opinion? Just to set a recent example, as I don't want to dive deeper into the IGS in order to find the many more that exist.

There may be enormous differences between us, captain Rella, probably even unsolvable ones. And when time comes, we will probably shoot eachother for them, as duty requires us to. But don't make a mistake, I hold no hatred towards you or your people, nor do I consider myself superior. Obviously, I do believe you are wrong in many things, but so do you think about me, and it's logical. That doesn't make me stand above you or below you, just on different grounds.

My willingness to compromise doesn't matter. I could name examples of times in which I acted as a bridge between the Imperial Navy and the Minmatarr Republic, albeit with little success. But those don't matter, what matters is the willingness to understand each other, to be in the other's place. Compromise will come, or not, from our leaders, and we will follow them, be them right or wrong, and be held accountable for that. As does the Electus Matari now, as we have done in the past. Because that's who we are, that's what loyalty and duty mean.

Right? Right how so? No, she is not right in her venom and spite. She is not right in how the acts of the Amarr weigh against the Republic and how the Republic apportion their vengeance; the acts of the Empire are different in purpose and conduct. She is not right to believe that because of the past acts of the Empire, her people are able to override treaties and agreements that have been instated between this time and then.

Most disturbing perhaps is that the girl seems to believe that when confronted by a demon, she reasons that she, too, must be allowed to be a demon.

Let us all be demons, then.

I find it more than a little depressing that we're now in a situation where nobody can speak about this depressing situation without being in severe danger of being abused.

Amarrian? Be quiet, you've done far worse, so you can't talk.
Caldari? Get out, it's nothing to do with you and you're just playing for political points. (Thanks, Heth.)
Gallente? You're an arrogant freak and it's your fault for not releasing the guy. Never mind that it was a crime in Federation space, with most of the victims being Gallente.
Matari? You're a blind psychopath or an apologist that didn't bother to act on your whining.

What's all the more saddening is that most of us agree on the fundamentals. A great visionary has died, the Republic fleet was in the wrong, and Shakor's regime is in danger of going out of control. Although making an armed incursion into an allied nation and firing the first shot (as I understand it) could be argued as a case that it's already gone out of control.

Everyone in New Eden with a stake in the core regions has an opinion about what should be done, but at the end of the day, it's down to the Federation and Republic governments - hopefully to come to their senses and not escalate the situation further. Does Shakor deserve a slap on the wrist? Certainly. Is the Empire the one to give it? No. As someone pointed out to me last night, wittering on and making heavy handed condemnations and suggestions as a hostile outsider helps nobody.