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Where's the Variety

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Ruezer
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2013-05-08 06:32:01 UTC
Some games aren't for everybody. What I love about this game compared to other MMO style games is the ability to change the landscape of the game by one action.

Example, if I camp a system and kill their miners frequently, their alliance may get mad at mine. In turn this can cause a war between many alliances that change the landscape of the game...all caused by MY one action.

I also enjoy the politics, and meeting new people. The market is another aspect I love about EVE.

Unfortunately some people just can't into EVE, and I can see why. Find a game that you can get into or wait for one
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
#22 - 2013-05-08 06:32:05 UTC
I kind of agree with OP, but I don't particularly mind. What there is, is pretty to look at, and the models that do exist look good. I prefer this over wildly over-the-top fantasy fair of colors and shapes. The variety is, as other people have pointed out, in the interactions with others and heck... even ship fittings can get really crazy Big smile
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#23 - 2013-05-08 06:38:07 UTC
can i have your stuff?

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Josef Djugashvilis
#24 - 2013-05-08 11:04:28 UTC
Stormcrow Maiar wrote:
I've been playing Eve for about half a year, most of which has been logging on to update my skill queue.

I haven't been playing actively because I can't seem to immerse myself in Eve's environment. Everything is black, empty, or looks like some minor variation of some other object.

All the ships, structures, environment, missions, etc.. look and feel so similar.

This may come across as me ranting about Eve, which I suppose it is, but in all reality I've just been waiting for a company to make a product that really upped the ante compared to what has been done in previous MMORPGs. I was really hoping I would find this when I switched to Eve, but since it has been out for over a decade I suppose I should have known better.


Eve is a 'doing' game.

Try it; and you may well find yourself becoming immersed in New Eden.

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Nessa Aldeen
First Among Equals
#25 - 2013-05-08 11:10:43 UTC
I think the OP wants 'Space Castles' and boulevards as well as the occasional hand in the park holding, and of course unicorns and rainbows. The word 'immersion' doesn't come from eye-candy, it comes from the realization that you're about to embark on a journey, red-lining your ship into structure, screaming on TS for scrams, and trash talking in local. If you've only played this game for half-a year, you don't have a clue yet what EVE is. Takes far far longer to know and play EVE.
Ziphis
Dingus Coalition
HYPE-TRAIN
#26 - 2013-05-08 11:12:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Ziphis
Stormcrow Maiar wrote:
I've been playing Eve for about half a year, most of which has been logging on to update my skill queue.

I haven't been playing actively because I can't seem to immerse myself in Eve's environment. Everything is black, empty, or looks like some minor variation of some other object.

All the ships, structures, environment, missions, etc.. look and feel so similar.

This may come across as me ranting about Eve, which I suppose it is, but in all reality I've just been waiting for a company to make a product that really upped the ante compared to what has been done in previous MMORPGs. I was really hoping I would find this when I switched to Eve, but since it has been out for over a decade I suppose I should have known better.



Being honest bud if you feel this way....Can I have your stuff?


Also moving pictures are pretty ship spinning is great...skill queues are nice but do try clicking the undock button and flying in The "Black of space"

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flakeys
Doomheim
#27 - 2013-05-08 11:20:16 UTC
ISD Gallifreyan wrote:

Have you ever visited the Eve Gate?



No , and i been playing for 9 years muahahaaaaa Shocked

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Barbara Nichole
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#28 - 2013-05-08 11:20:39 UTC
Sounds like you are playing solo and expecting PvE to entertain you. That's not the way to play eve and have fun.

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Meta Warrior
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#29 - 2013-05-08 11:21:47 UTC
"Where's the variety?"

- Was chased around low sec in cruiser, horribly out-gunned.
- Ran a mission with a couple friends.
- Grabbed some crappy fitted destroyer's, got them blown up in low.
- Laughed hysterically when a noob corp mate went head first into a WH and was back in med clone in minutes.
- Fired a LOT of fireworks.
- Went mining .... ok, not really, but you get the point.

Yup, no variety in my last 3-4 days in New Eden.
Karig'Ano Keikira
Tax Cheaters
#30 - 2013-05-08 11:34:24 UTC
variety?
- there are literary hundreds of ships in EVE, each of which can be fitted in at least few, often more then few ways - basically there are more combinations of things you can fly then you will ever be able to try, let alone learn to love and use; if you consider play in small team, you pretty much have infinite number of combinations*
*: sure, there are standard fits and there are fits that suck and ships that are outright bad (but devs are working on it), but even if you consider just standard T1 frigate fits, you have dozens of fits to choose from, hundreds of combinations if you take 3 men frig team and that is just tip of iceberg

so when you look at variety, EVE is at least order of magnitude above your typical MMO (with cca 10 classes and 2-3 specs per class); hell, after cca 2 years of (casual) EVE play, I am unable to name all EVE ships and am (very) far away from knowing typical fittings for each of them, also I yet have to see every EVE ship in space :)

then consider different approaches to playing eve and things you can do: manufacturing, highsec mining, lowsec mining, highsec exploration, lowsec exploration, faction warfare, 0.0 warfare, highsec warfare, lowsec warefare, wh warfare, industry etc. etc.... and all of these pretty much have different approaches and playstyles (sure, some are similar, but many are not - for example you will not play highsec exploration the same way as lowsec one and 0.0 will add additional tricks, wh space will add different ones..., same goes for many other things)

as for graphics, well... you shouldn't be really playing any MMO for graphics; imo EVE is not that bad in that part - you have shiny space, less shiny space, more shiny space, shiny space in different colors, even some different pretty shines in wormhole space, you have stations and stuff in different thematics for different races and stuff...

also as others said... did you try actually playing the game? :)
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#31 - 2013-05-08 12:35:16 UTC
Stormcrow Maiar wrote:
I've been playing Eve for about half a year, most of which has been logging on to update my skill queue.

I haven't been playing actively because I can't seem to immerse myself in Eve's environment. Everything is black, empty, or looks like some minor variation of some other object.

All the ships, structures, environment, missions, etc.. look and feel so similar.

This may come across as me ranting about Eve, which I suppose it is, but in all reality I've just been waiting for a company to make a product that really upped the ante compared to what has been done in previous MMORPGs. I was really hoping I would find this when I switched to Eve, but since it has been out for over a decade I suppose I should have known better.


I underlined your problem, unreasonable expectation. When you look at a product in comparison to other products rather than looking at it on it's own merits, that tends to happen.

EVE does have visual themes (you can always tell a Gallente object from a minmatar one, for example), but most of us like that kind of easy familiarity.
Senor StabbyStabs
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#32 - 2013-05-08 13:09:31 UTC
I founded the corp I'm currently in, a few months back definately within 6 months, we're part of a larger gaming community and we all have immense differences in likes/dislikes/personalities so we didn't know where to go that would please everyone. Within that time we were a High-sec mining corp, missioning corp, exploring corp, we owned a c3 wormhole and did alright running it had a cloudy white skybox we had plenty of pvp going to, moved out of the wormhole joined a null sec alliance and hung around there for a little bit, and now we play around here and there in low sec while hanging out in various places.

I'll agree some things look similar and it might feel like your doing the same thing with a different skin but I guess that's at the shallow base of the game it can be mining/harvesting, but get into the deeper parts, check out incursions, check out lowsec, I can speak from personal experience when I say Wormholes are a completely different animal and it's a beast that will chew you up and spit you out if you don't take it by the horns, and tell it to "STFU and sit down, or else it won't get it's Scooby snack."

I didn't even think about it till I saw someone doing it, one guy was just a market trader he would watch the markets and would buy/sell stuff for profit, he made billions within a matter of weeks. lol.
I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
#33 - 2013-05-08 13:14:58 UTC
I would ask you for your stuff, but if you mainly just updated your skills over 6 months, they you have nothing worthwhile. Except maybe your Gnosis. Can I have that?
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
#34 - 2013-05-08 15:25:38 UTC
Quote:
I underlined your problem, unreasonable expectation. When you look at a product in comparison to other products rather than looking at it on it's own merits, that tends to happen.


When you look at a product in comparison to other products it's called being an educated consumer. I cant imagine how ******* terrible every product on every market would be if people didn't. It's actually dizzying that you're serious.

internet spaceships

are serious business sir.

and don't forget it

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