EVE General Discussion

It's the same kind of metric they used when ditching the classic client and whn abandoning SM2 (to say nothing of Linux), so it'll probably pop up here as well.

I'd say hat the chances of them going for two render paths is pretty darn smaill; if they can't use the exact same graphical assets for both, it plummets to zero. If all they're doing is adding in tesselation, largely extrapolated from existing assets, then maybe…

How about you shut up and deal with it and upgrade your toaster, or go back to playing Pong

Hmm. Your degree isn't in business?

All I'm gettin at is that when the amount of new subs lost becomes greater then subs lost to upgrading the product, its time to upgrade the product.

I was PISSED when they nixed the linux client. Which was also the classic graphics client. They didn't go under then, and more people play the game now. And a lot less people would play the game now than if they never upgraded the "classic" graphic.

Just please start thinking about what you can do IF they decide to make a DX11 only client and give you hopefully a very long heads up on it.

This is just my wild guess without any evidence but if I was still sitting on DX9 hardware I would start saving in anticipation for a mid to late 2014 DX11 client. Well after XP goes into unsupported by Microsoft.

CCP has exact figures on how many of their subscribers that are running which OS.

No amount of shouting in either direction is going to change those figures.

That's a bit of a false dichotomy, though. There's nothing to suggest that they gained any more subscribers just because they upgraded to a DX9 path, and the reason they didn't go under was exactly because they didn't just go DX9 — they offered it to those who wanted it and could use it, and retained the old path for those who could not until the number of people in that category was so small that it was lost in the noise of other lost subscribers.

Also, trying to shore up (short-term) numbers by wowing people with graphics that, in the end, don't matter much when hidden behind all those windows (or when zoomed out to give a good tactical perspective) and which are not a long-term source of retention, at the cost of people who have invested lots of time — to say nothing of multiboxing alt accounts — is a pretty bad idea. The notion that you can exchange your old customer base for a new one — even partly — is fairly well disproven these days.

Anyway , the main lesson from Trinity was that dual rendering paths suck. Doubly so if it means you have to duplicate every effort in adjusting or adding graphical assets. In fact, it was rather amazing how long they kept the classical client going when you consider the added workload.

microsoft stopped service packs for W7 too
personally though EVE runs fine under WINE (save for the annoying CQ freeze glitch)

I avoid any game with "EA" on it in any shape or form these days, so Crysis 3 just won't do, besides there are no internet spaceships in Crysis 3 gosh golly gosh!

Anyway regardless, one day you are actually going to have to put a little bit of chump change towards your computer even if you don't want too, I would suggest slowly trying to upgrade now so that you don't have to be so sour in threads talking about and speculating about Direct X 11.

For my last rig I slowly bought it part by part over a time period and kept using my old computer in the meantime, this way its not such a huge instant cost but rather spread out over time.

I would, if my graphics card weren't soldered directly to the motherboard.

I didn't force you to invest your time and money. That was your choice. If you knew the state of graphics in EVE and upgraded your rig past what was necessary to run it anyway, and are now demanding that CCP improve the graphics to justify your purchase, then you're an absolute moron.