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The Battle of Colelie

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Teinyhr
Ourumur
#21 - 2013-05-07 22:37:50 UTC
I thought it would be a sad day to see Karin Midular die. Sadly the day just got worse.

I'm most frustrated and angry towards the Republic Fleet, all the while I understand their position, there was no need for all this violence. If they truly cared for Midular they would not have engaged in hostilities in her name, with the Republic's allies, no less. Republic commanders threw their crews life away for what? For nothing. All they achieved was to dishonor Karin Midular's memory, shame themselves and cause more needless destruction and suffering in a universe that is already filled to the brim of the same.
Marie D'Artois
D'Artois Legal Services
#22 - 2013-05-07 22:42:41 UTC
TomHorn wrote:
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=Julianus Soter]Mentas Blaque and Thoun Gatarau.... How many souls have you slaughtered today? Now and in the future?


You cant keep blaming Black Eagles and FIO Soter. They work for the Goverment. The current Gallente Federation President is Jacus Roden. The buck stops with him .


Indeed, interstellar diplomacy is not in FIO's mandate. This failure is Roden's, not Blaque's.
Leopold Caine
Stillwater Corporation
#23 - 2013-05-07 22:43:01 UTC
Tala Kordes wrote:
I suppose both sides in this horrible conflict had governments and people to stand up for. I just hope this wont escalate further and destroy the friendship of these two glorious nations!


Oh yes, I'm sure they'll just forget all about it and have awkward moments of silence when a third party mentions it at a cocktail table. Because that's what happens when someone goes and destroys a sizeable amount of your capital vessels, not to mention all the lives of the citizens of your glorious nations aboard.
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Shintoko Akahoshi
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2013-05-07 22:43:58 UTC
Ugleb wrote:
Not for the first time in recent months have the Gallente shown an insitutional failure to understand the force of a Minmatar cultural imperative at work here. The death of a Ray of Matar is a sacred matter to us, for want of a better word they might grasp. The importance of this matter cannot be overstated.


Oh, I couldn't agree with you more, Ugleb. The importance of this matter can not be overstated. But at least, as you point out, the families of all those crewmembers killed have had an opportunity to develop a better understanding of the force of a Minmatar cultural imperative at work. Nice work!

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Rioghal Morgan
Pixel Navigators
AimogMart
#25 - 2013-05-07 23:46:56 UTC
I cannot fully express the level of sadness I feel at this grievous betrayal of my ancestral homeland by the Republic I've been fighting for these past months and the nation I grew up in. All I can say is that I must question my loyalties were the conflict to heighten further.
Rioghal Morgan
Pixel Navigators
AimogMart
#26 - 2013-05-07 23:47:54 UTC
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Gosakumori Noh
Coven of One
#27 - 2013-05-08 00:05:03 UTC
I'm terribly accustomed to being right, of course, but it is still fun. Time is a weapon. We Amarr understand these things. Going back in time a wee bit:

Elsebeth Rhiannon wrote:
Captain Noh, are you really that simple, or do you just pretend?

The longer this is kept out of tribal hands, the longer we risk a conflict that we cannot afford.

That is not a threat. I voice my disagreement with the Federal decisions, but if it is my call, I will not start a war over them.


Am I still pretending, you poor, simple-minded little fool? Turns out I know you better than you know yourself, now, doesn't it, sweet pea. Catching up to the present:

Elsebeth Rhiannon wrote:
I gave the order to the EM fleet to engage


I so love moments like this.
ColonelNick
Providence Guard
#28 - 2013-05-08 00:09:15 UTC
So the Fed and Matar are done cupping each others balls? Looks like the romance is getting rough. Cool

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Caroline Grace
Retrostellar Boulevard
#29 - 2013-05-08 00:33:11 UTC
I love Minmatars.

But if they think they will hotdrop at our territory, ninja-avoid cyno jammers and fly a whole dread army into our space like mad goats, they are dead wrong.

What happened today is an escalation of frustated Minmatars, which I completely understand. There should be some investigation, there should be some heavy apologies from Gallente side for lack of sharing intel.

But invading our space because of this, threatening our peace-keeping forces (we didn't start the shooting, remember?) and being rude is not what a friend does to his friend.

I hope this is not a war. I hope this can be solved through diplomacy now. The shooting was a disaster. The dead of your Ray of Matar was a disaster. We acted as arrogant goats. We are arrogant goats! We surely deserved some "cold" standing reset. But not inviding forces. Not like this. Not with violence. Let's keep it real.

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Derek Quaid
Doomheim
#30 - 2013-05-08 00:33:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Derek Quaid
Savages can't get enough fights with their enemies, so they go pick a fight with their allies. Predictable.

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Fredfredbug4
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#31 - 2013-05-08 01:05:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Fredfredbug4
The Ray of Matar has not even been put into her grave yet and she is already rolling over in it. The utter disgust and sadness her spirit must be feeling at the moment is too much for one to even fathom.

(For the sake of clarification, I am referring the the Republic as a government entity and am making no reference to the Minmatar people or tribes.)

This blatant and unjustifiable action by the Republic shows what little regard the government has for the laws, practices, and sovereignty of their allies. Decades of political, economic, and military support and this is how we are re-payed for it? Generations of giving to the Republic expecting nothing but friendship in return and these despicable acts are how they say thank you?

The Republic is a nation of hypocrites of the highest degree. Constantly accusing others of not respecting their culture, laws, and sovereignty while not hesitating for even a moment to completely butcher the culture, laws, and sovereignty of others.

I say, all bets are off. It's time to cut ties with the Republic unless reparations and reforms regarding an alliance are properly made.

Ugh, first Tibus Heth's plan to nationalize Caldari Corps, now this. How the heck am I going to keep the serious-yet-lighthearted tone of Fred Fred Frederation this week when everything is making my blood boil?

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Fey Ivory
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#32 - 2013-05-08 01:24:47 UTC
I cant say i knew the Ray of Matar, or that the Federation in this matter couldent have acted better, but having read up abit of her acts in life and what she were standing for, to me this action carried out by Matar pilots, is anything but honoring the Ray of Matar, if She were alive, and a equal situation had happened, do you think that this was how she would have handled it ?, or would have like it to be handled ?

I probably think she might have said something like a "eye for an eye, doesent equal justice, it will just make the universe blind !"
James Syagrius
Luminaire Sovereign Solutions
#33 - 2013-05-08 01:54:40 UTC  |  Edited by: James Syagrius
Julianus Soter wrote:
Mentas Blaque and Thoun Gatarau.... How many souls have you slaughtered today? Now and in the future?

So you would justify the Tribals actions? For Gods sake!

I am a Cartel member a known criminal, suspected assassin and admitted murderer, and still a better friend to the Federation than you.

What twisted logic can you be following.

The Federation denies extradition to the former Republic of a criminal who committed crimes in the Federation, and for that offence you blame the very men who would defend us from the barbarians at the pounding at the gate.
Valdezi
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#34 - 2013-05-08 02:00:37 UTC
Caellach Marellus wrote:



Great ******* job the lot of you.


Indeed. ******* idiots to a man.
Julianus Soter
Blades of Liberty
#35 - 2013-05-08 02:31:06 UTC
James Syagrius wrote:

I am a Cartel member a known criminal, suspected assassin and admitted murderer, and still a better friend to the Federation than you.


"better friend".

It amazes me that this fact does not tell you about the priorities of the Federal Intelligence Office are misguided. . .

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PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#36 - 2013-05-08 05:10:10 UTC
In light of this second surprise attack on the part of Shakor's government, I would strongly suggest that the Republic's best course of action is to remove the tyrant Shakor from power, try him as a war criminal, and sue for peace.

As long as Shakor lives in power, there can be no peace. With him gone, there might be hope.

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Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#37 - 2013-05-08 06:34:18 UTC
First the Minmatars attacked Yulai and the Federation did nothing, because Yulai is not a Federation system.

Then the Minmatars attacked Domain, and the Federation did nothing because Domain is not a Federation region.

Now the Minmatars have attacked Colelie, and there is no excuse for the Federation to not act.

Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori

Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#38 - 2013-05-08 06:37:59 UTC
Ugleb wrote:
The death of a Ray of Matar is a sacred matter to us, for want of a better word they might grasp.


Weren't you a member of Ushra'Khan when they put a bounty on Midular's head?

Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori

Aynen
Federal Guard and Recon Corporation
#39 - 2013-05-08 06:44:19 UTC
What surprises me is that during this highly political conflict, there where no diplomats on the scene. Several times either side choose their words very poorly, escalating the conflict where a decent diplomat would not have.
Amseln deBrabant
Ochsenbruegger
#40 - 2013-05-08 06:53:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Amseln deBrabant
I personally fired my Weapons at the Minmatar Naglfars, they invaded the teritory of my loved Federation and shoot at our Navy. THAT has to be answered, and the answer was given.

Nethertheless i understand what was the cause for the action of this Minmatar fleet and we must say that our authorities had enough time to bring forward information and punishment about the shooting. So in "making a point" i fully agree with the Minmatar standpoint, but not in what was actually done. To "make a point" there would have been many much better options.

So how to go on? I leave this for the government of the Federation in which i have full trust. I will support any actions, even a war against Minmatar. But surely i hope for a peaceful solution of this mess.

But i also see the honor as well in the personal actions of the Minmatar people who died in Colelie. They only did what they thought was needed for their nation. As i respect this, i offer to pay for the rents of any relatives of ordinary crewmemebers of the Naglfars i shoot upon. Also i will start a fund, to help finance actions and "Embassays of Trust" on more cultural understanding between Minmatar and Gallente. Any Capsuleer willing to help on this cause is welcome.