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ISO Caldari PVP Alliance

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Quentin Marshall
#1 - 2013-05-07 20:39:22 UTC
My main belongs in a small PVP lowsec corp. We were thinking of joining Caldari FW to help turn the tide. I am wondering if there any respectable lowsec PVP alliances in Caldari Factional Warfare? I know there is a recruitment forum but I just wanted to seek opinions from others rather than get pitched.

It seems like there are decent Gallente corps and alliances but my CEO and I have had difficult time finding an alliance that could fly respectable fleets (eg; not kitchen sink) with a solid Killboard. Are we not looking in the right place? Can anyone here make any recommendations?
chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Of Essence
#2 - 2013-05-07 20:50:39 UTC  |  Edited by: chatgris
From the Gallente perspective, two Caldari alliances stand out as competent and relatively drama free (the latter isn't saying much for the Caldari militia :) )

Caldari State Capturing
Templis Dragonaors
Combatevolved
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#3 - 2013-05-07 20:55:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Combatevolved
Chatgris is right.

Get to innia. Templis Dragonaors are taking Eha.
IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome
#4 - 2013-05-08 05:16:01 UTC  |  Edited by: IbanezLaney
Quote:
I am wondering if there any respectable lowsec PVP alliances in Caldari Factional Warfare?




Hell no.
Morgan Torry
Arma Purgatorium
#5 - 2013-05-08 05:59:12 UTC
IbanezLaney wrote:
Quote:
I am wondering if there any respectable lowsec PVP alliances in Caldari Factional Warfare?




Hell no.


Agreed. Join QCats - they're the top dogs now and need to remain there. Also, they aren't afraid of fighting. Mad respect.

So yes...more pew Lol Blues always mean lost opportunity

Arma Purgatorium - What is Podded May Never Die

Rob Lorence
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2013-05-08 08:45:54 UTC
There are also other decent alliances in caldari mil (one i'm in i.e Blink )
If your corp has good FC's then its just a matter of joining an alliance with enough members who can follow fleet orders, decide on a specific doctrine and ask members to have the specific ships ready on time for ops.. If it goes well then ppl will keep on coming :)

The biggest thing that's missing from caldari mil imo are organized fleets with proper FC's.. Then again its also important to have members who are willing to plex solo to hold/capture systems if you want to actually turn the tide
Pinky Feldman
Amarrian Vengeance
Ragequit Cancel Sub
#7 - 2013-05-08 22:24:39 UTC
Rob Lorence wrote:
There are also other decent alliances in caldari mil (one i'm in i.e Blink )
If your corp has good FC's then its just a matter of joining an alliance with enough members who can follow fleet orders, decide on a specific doctrine and ask members to have the specific ships ready on time for ops.. If it goes well then ppl will keep on coming :)

The biggest thing that's missing from caldari mil imo are organized fleets with proper FC's.. Then again its also important to have members who are willing to plex solo to hold/capture systems if you want to actually turn the tide


Since organized fleets are good for anything other than ihub bashes, or funzies.
chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Of Essence
#8 - 2013-05-08 23:38:47 UTC
Pinky Feldman wrote:
Rob Lorence wrote:
There are also other decent alliances in caldari mil (one i'm in i.e Blink )
If your corp has good FC's then its just a matter of joining an alliance with enough members who can follow fleet orders, decide on a specific doctrine and ask members to have the specific ships ready on time for ops.. If it goes well then ppl will keep on coming :)

The biggest thing that's missing from caldari mil imo are organized fleets with proper FC's.. Then again its also important to have members who are willing to plex solo to hold/capture systems if you want to actually turn the tide


Since organized fleets are good for anything other than ihub bashes, or funzies.


They are good for fighting over home systems.
ALUCARD 1208
Jerkasaurus Wrecks Inc.
Sedition.
#9 - 2013-05-08 23:56:27 UTC  |  Edited by: ALUCARD 1208
Rob Lorence wrote:


The biggest thing that's missing from caldari mil imo are organized fleets with proper FC's..


Didnt you guys have gavingoodrich hes one of the best fcs cal mil has ever had if not the best... his thoughts should have been taken on board.
Also if a cal mil corp could pull of the coup of getting gunnyt31 bk in the cal mill fold that would stand you in good stead imo but i dont know how the land lies there with him difecting ;)

Both these guys knew how to give fights and organize fleets on a larger scale
IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome
#10 - 2013-05-09 00:15:29 UTC  |  Edited by: IbanezLaney
Rob Lorence wrote:

The biggest thing that's missing from caldari mil imo are organized fleets with proper FC's..




We have the FC's:
It's just getting motivated to undock and to tie yourself to the computer for an hour or two and not be interrupted that is the issue.
Quentin Marshall
#11 - 2013-05-09 00:30:25 UTC
Combatevolved wrote:
Chatgris is right.

Get to innia. Templis Dragonaors are taking Eha.


Surely you are just trolling me? I read The Mittani article today about how both Templis and Southern Renegades is failcascading . Whilst I love to join the fights, I don't want my corp to endure the sort of drama that both alliances are getting from internal dissent. Borg alliance maybe? Resistance is futile. Heh. Couldn't help it. Lol

Major Killz
inglorious bastards.
#12 - 2013-05-09 01:31:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Major Killz
I suggest you focus on improving and relying on yourself, friends and corporation. Otherwise you'll be weak and be dependent on politics (diplomacy), cult of personalities (Fleet Commanders) and even the slightest amount of difficulty.

With that said.

The Caldari militia is full of terribubble pilots and leaders who gather together like flies on sh!t. I honestly don't know why they congregate in such numbers in the Caldari militia. They have bad habits that has not and may never changed. They even propagate those habbits to new pilots. Well to be honest. Most of the pilots and leaders in this game have the same habits.

role-play on***REAL Caldari are not so weak. We lack numbers compared to the other empires, but we overcome size with wits, tenacity etc***role-play off

The few leaders and pilots who are worth mentioning are successful no matter the condition of factional warfare, battles, wars and losses. These entities and pilots tend to be small because there's a lack of hand holding and incompetence. While the larger entities are full of ret@rds.

Anyway. As a wise douche once said "**** with golden sprinkles placed on it, is still sh!t".

Note: I hope these comments are taken as is. I like to be honest instead of cordial. The things that make someone a good friend doesn't necessarily make them competent and or rugged (battle tested and hardened). Which is something you need to be successful in combat.

This may not ever get threw to most who read this, but some players may learn from these comments and will be better for it. There's more context but I decided to simplify, as I tend to do.


TLDR: stay away from the large alliances. Find and fly with the corporations and pilots who are successful and learn from them. MIND YOU. The above only matters if you want to be successful in terms of combat. Otherwise, just chill and don't worry about anything. Log on circle jerk, laugh and make bread.


-killz

[u]Ich bin ein Pirat ![/u]

Combatevolved
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#13 - 2013-05-09 01:38:16 UTC
Quentin Marshall wrote:
Combatevolved wrote:
Chatgris is right.

Get to innia. Templis Dragonaors are taking Eha.


Surely you are just trolling me? I read The Mittani article today about how both Templis and Southern Renegades is failcascading . Whilst I love to join the fights, I don't want my corp to endure the sort of drama that both alliances are getting from internal dissent. Borg alliance maybe? Resistance is futile. Heh. Couldn't help it. Lol



There is a reason why you read about those alliances. It is because they actually do something in FW. Most don't. BORG starting to get into things.
Sean Parisi
Blackrise Vanguard
#14 - 2013-05-09 02:02:57 UTC
IbanezLaney wrote:
Rob Lorence wrote:

The biggest thing that's missing from caldari mil imo are organized fleets with proper FC's..




We have the FC's:
It's just getting motivated to undock and to tie yourself to the computer for an hour or two and not be uninterrupted that is the issue.



Pretty much this. Majority of us are willing to take a fleet out, except real life beckons.
chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Of Essence
#15 - 2013-05-09 03:10:43 UTC
Quentin Marshall wrote:
Combatevolved wrote:
Chatgris is right.

Get to innia. Templis Dragonaors are taking Eha.


Surely you are just trolling me? I read The Mittani article today about how both Templis and Southern Renegades is failcascading . Whilst I love to join the fights, I don't want my corp to endure the sort of drama that both alliances are getting from internal dissent. Borg alliance maybe? Resistance is futile. Heh. Couldn't help it. Lol



Southern is failcascading, which is why I didn't list them.

However, this isn't the first time Templis have been kicked out of a system, and they are still kicking.
X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#16 - 2013-05-09 04:11:59 UTC  |  Edited by: X Gallentius
Major Killz wrote:
TLDR: Find and fly with the corporations and pilots who are successful and learn from them.
But he said he wanted to fly in the Caldari militia..... /rimshot Big smile
Combatevolved
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#17 - 2013-05-09 04:31:08 UTC
X Gallentius wrote:
Major Killz wrote:
TLDR: Find and fly with the corporations and pilots who are successful and learn from them.
But he said he wanted to fly in the Caldari militia..... /rimshot Big smile


Yeah, fly with Gallente instead. They are the underdogs. Roll

If you are going to turn the tides, might as well not associate with the rest of Caldari militia and have your corp take Eha.
Bad Messenger
Rehabilitation Clinic
#18 - 2013-05-09 06:02:04 UTC
Rob Lorence wrote:
There are also other decent alliances in caldari mil (one i'm in i.e Blink )
If your corp has good FC's then its just a matter of joining an alliance with enough members who can follow fleet orders, decide on a specific doctrine and ask members to have the specific ships ready on time for ops.. If it goes well then ppl will keep on coming :)

The biggest thing that's missing from caldari mil imo are organized fleets with proper FC's.. Then again its also important to have members who are willing to plex solo to hold/capture systems if you want to actually turn the tide



borg are awoxers so ...
Bad Messenger
Rehabilitation Clinic
#19 - 2013-05-09 06:06:38 UTC
Major Killz wrote:
I suggest you focus on improving and relying on yourself, friends and corporation. Otherwise you'll be weak and be dependent on politics (diplomacy), cult of personalities (Fleet Commanders) and even the slightest amount of difficulty.

With that said.

The Caldari militia is full of terribubble pilots and leaders who gather together like flies on sh!t. I honestly don't know why they congregate in such numbers in the Caldari militia. They have bad habits that has not and may never changed. They even propagate those habbits to new pilots. Well to be honest. Most of the pilots and leaders in this game have the same habits.

role-play on***REAL Caldari are not so weak. We lack numbers compared to the other empires, but we overcome size with wits, tenacity etc***role-play off

The few leaders and pilots who are worth mentioning are successful no matter the condition of factional warfare, battles, wars and losses. These entities and pilots tend to be small because there's a lack of hand holding and competence. While the larger entities are full of ret@rds.

Anyway. As a wise douche once said "**** with golden sprinkles placed on it, is still sh!t".

Note: I hope these comments are taken as is. I like to be honest instead of cordial. The things that make someone a good friend doesn't necessarily make them competent and or rugged (battle tested and hardened). Which is something you need to be successful in combat.

This may not ever get threw to most who read this, but some players may learn from these comments and will be better for it. There's more context but I decided to simplify, as I tend to do.


TLDR: stay away from the large alliances. Find and fly with the corporations and pilots who are successful and learn from them. MIND YOU. The above only matters if you want to be successful in terms of combat. Otherwise, just chill and don't worry about anything. Log on circle jerk, laugh and make bread.


-killz


Thing is that you will not get pro pvpers to caldari side because they know that fight against gallente is over in couple fights, after that there is only pve left.

So all you have to do is to play with newcomers who think FW is something great.
Rob Lorence
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2013-05-09 07:40:40 UTC
Not gonna bother much with the borg are awoxers bit.. Just look at our killboards and judge for yourselves.

As for organized fleets, your right. They have nearly 0 contribution to "winning" FW other than bashing/defending an Ihub (bashing can be done with a small gang of OG carriers during the dead hours) or drive plexers/deplexers
They are however good for moral to have fun roams where you improve your KB and members have fun welping enemy fleets.

The way to "win" fw is by having your corp/alliance members focus on plexing a specific system with small groups/solo throughout the day and not with a fleet of 60ppl (plexing with 60 ppl together is **** LP and gets very old very fast)

Regarding that mittani article, not sure what was the point of a "push" with a fleet of BS/BC? You might get good kills but taking a system is through the small/novice plexes.

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