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13 year old murdered his mother over CoD

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Denak Calamari
Incorruptibles
#1 - 2013-05-07 19:26:54 UTC
Just stumbled over this Youtube video about a kid sexually assaulting his mother and then shooting her with a rifle because she took away his copy of Call of Duty.

Video in question

The article about it

This is seriously disturbing news, and I just can't help but wonder what the heck were their parents thinking when they gave their at the time 11 year old kid a lethal firearm. And I sure damn hope that no politician will instantly jump on the Violent-Video-Games-Are-Bad-And-Should-Be-Banned bandwagon.
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2013-05-07 19:31:47 UTC
I'll be giving my kid my .22 when it turns 4 but I plan to actually raise it and do that thing that makes kids not shoot people.... parenting I think it's called?

"Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff 

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Commissar Kate
Kesukka
#3 - 2013-05-07 19:36:08 UTC
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
I'll be giving my kid my .22 when it turns 4 but I plan to actually raise it and do that thing that makes kids not shoot people.... parenting I think it's called?


Like respect and discipline? It seems like almost all children lack those two things now days.
Eurydia Vespasian
Storm Hunters
#4 - 2013-05-07 19:57:29 UTC
stories like this make me not ever want to have children. well that and the whole misery of being pregnant thing. seems to me people aren't even allowed to be parents anymore. you discipline a child...it's physical abuse. you threaten them with the possibility of discipline...it's psychological abuse. you verbally scold them...it's verbal abuse.

they aren't allowed to be wrong. they aren't allowed to lose.

and if you dare to attempt contradicting that standard by actually punishing or scolding a child, you'll have some nosy ******* neighbor calling the social workers on you. parents can't win these days.

this has been going on for a long time already and we see the results in the paper, in the grocery store, at the movie theater and walking down the street everyday.

i remember when i was little, my brother was in trouble somehow (which was the normal protocol of most days lol) and dad was preparing to chastise his behavior with a little corporal punishment. which was, even at that time, beginning to be become rather taboo. anyway, my brother says he'll call the cops if this goes down. dad replies "you go ahead and call them. i swear, by the time they get here...they'll have a reason to come."

no cops showed up.
Adela Talvanen
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#5 - 2013-05-07 20:08:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Adela Talvanen
Words fail me except OMG, Poor woman. Awful. Cry
Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
#6 - 2013-05-07 20:08:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Micheal Dietrich
Somewhere out there Jack Thompson is jizzing himself right now.


As for the firearm comment, I received my .22 when I was ten, but my parents taught me about discipline and safety. Never once did I have the urge to go grab it each time my parents grounded me, which was almost a daily occurrence mind you, and 24 years later I still have that rifle and both parents. I know it can be hard to comprehend, but kids can be responsible and not immediately turn into a little Kim Jong the second they're handed a firearm.
Personally I am more disturbed by his attempted **** of his own mother. Seriously, who the hell does that?

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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#7 - 2013-05-07 20:15:54 UTC
Micheal Dietrich wrote:
Personally I am more disturbed by his attempted **** of his own mother. Seriously, who the hell does that?


My thoughts exactly.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?

Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2013-05-07 20:18:05 UTC
Micheal Dietrich wrote:
Somewhere out there Jack Thompson is jizzing himself right now.


As for the firearm comment, I received my .22 when I was ten, but my parents taught me about discipline and safety. Never once did I have the urge to go grab it each time my parents grounded me, which was almost a daily occurrence mind you, and 24 years later I still have that rifle and both parents. I know it can be hard to comprehend, but kids can be responsible and not immediately turn into a little Kim Jong the second they're handed a firearm.
Personally I am more disturbed by his attempted **** of his own mother. Seriously, who the hell does that?


Call of Duty players Straight

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Alara IonStorm
#9 - 2013-05-07 20:25:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Alara IonStorm
Eurydia Vespasian wrote:
stories like this make me not ever want to have children. well that and the whole misery of being pregnant thing. seems to me people aren't even allowed to be parents anymore. you discipline a child...it's physical abuse. you threaten them with the possibility of discipline...it's psychological abuse. you verbally scold them...it's verbal abuse.

they aren't allowed to be wrong. they aren't allowed to lose.

and if you dare to attempt contradicting that standard by actually punishing or scolding a child, you'll have some nosy ******* neighbor calling the social workers on you. parents can't win these days.

this has been going on for a long time already and we see the results in the paper, in the grocery store, at the movie theater and walking down the street everyday.

Don't forget the if you even just raise your voice to them in public there is a chance it will be filmed, put on the web and 99.9% of people won't care but the last 0.01% will call your home repeatedly, probably at 3AM to curse out whoever picks up the phone in a blind rage or jams up your counties police and social service lines yelling at them.

Because that helps things.
Zimmy Zeta
Perkone
Caldari State
#10 - 2013-05-07 20:46:20 UTC
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
I'll be giving my kid my .22 when it turns 4 but I plan to actually raise it and do that thing that makes kids not shoot people.... parenting I think it's called?


I am pretty sure that it is called "blanks" or "locking away the ammo".Straight

I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.

Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
#11 - 2013-05-07 20:50:03 UTC
Zimmy Zeta wrote:
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
I'll be giving my kid my .22 when it turns 4 but I plan to actually raise it and do that thing that makes kids not shoot people.... parenting I think it's called?


I am pretty sure that it is called "blanks" or "locking away the ammo".Straight


The gun should be in a safe as well, but if you can't afford a safe or the safe isn't big enough then it should have a trigger lock on it.

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Sturmwolke
#12 - 2013-05-07 20:54:46 UTC
Two things, parental upbringing and antipsychotic drugs (side-effects).
Either or both can turn anyone into a crazy/zombie.

You don't need a gun to kill in a rage. Baseball bats, kitchen knife etc. etc. can be just as efficient.
The type of weapon used is irrelevant.
Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
#13 - 2013-05-07 21:01:12 UTC
Another news site talked about him stabbing the couch with a knife when he an his mother fought. Personally I would've called that a red flag myself.

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silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#14 - 2013-05-07 21:01:53 UTC  |  Edited by: silens vesica
Denak Calamari wrote:
Just stumbled over this Youtube video about a kid sexually assaulting his mother and then shooting her with a rifle because she took away his copy of Call of Duty.

Video in question

The article about it

This is seriously disturbing news, and I just can't help but wonder what the heck were their parents thinking when they gave their at the time 11 year old kid a lethal firearm. And I sure damn hope that no politician will instantly jump on the Violent-Video-Games-Are-Bad-And-Should-Be-Banned bandwagon.

I've had my 'own' rifle since I was eight. My parents still live - despite all the discipline they've meted out over the years. Or maybe because they meted out punishment and required respectful and responsible behavior.

Perhaps we should look at the parenting in this situation.
Radical concept, I know, but it's a thought.


Micheal Dietrich wrote:

The gun should be in a safe as well, but if you can't afford a safe or the safe isn't big enough then it should have a trigger lock on it.

Trigger locks are pathetically easy to defeat.
Remove the friring pin or bolt and lock THAT up when not in use - That is fool-proof. In the case of semi-auto pistols, remove the barrel. Revolvers, remove the cylinder.

Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.

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Zimmy Zeta
Perkone
Caldari State
#15 - 2013-05-07 21:07:23 UTC
Sturmwolke wrote:
Two things, parental upbringing and antipsychotic drugs (side-effects).
Either or both can turn anyone into a crazy/zombie.

You don't need a gun to kill in a rage. Baseball bats, kitchen knife etc. etc. can be just as efficient.
The type of weapon used is irrelevant.


Antipsychotic drugs were not mentioned in the article unless I missed it.
Although the older generation of neuroleptics have severe side effects (most notably movement disorders and sedation) spontaneous eruptions of violence are not amongst them and are usually rather a symptom of the disorder that led to this medication in the first place.

I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.

Sturmwolke
#16 - 2013-05-07 21:48:01 UTC
Zimmy Zeta wrote:

Antipsychotic drugs were not mentioned in the article unless I missed it.
Although the older generation of neuroleptics have severe side effects (most notably movement disorders and sedation) spontaneous eruptions of violence are not amongst them and are usually rather a symptom of the disorder that led to this medication in the first place.

It won't be mentioned if it goes against an interest. Whether mentioned or not, that possibility won't go away.
Not going to bother arguing the (flawed) logic that the usage of any mind altering substance only limits itself to physical medical sideffects ... nor the rather easy conclusion to scapegoat it to purely an "original" condition.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#17 - 2013-05-07 21:52:18 UTC
I think we can all agree that giving this nutjob access to a firearm was not a very smart thing to do.
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#18 - 2013-05-07 22:11:20 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
I think we can all agree that giving this nutjob access to a firearm was not a very smart thing to do.
Hindsight. Clearly, the parents didn't think their child was a nutjob.

Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.

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Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
#19 - 2013-05-07 22:14:06 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
I think we can all agree that giving this nutjob access to a firearm was not a very smart thing to do.


I do agree but I would also like to reiterate that the kid shanked the family couch and attempted to **** his mother. In my opinion he is simply one of those 'it was a matter of time' people.

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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2013-05-07 22:35:47 UTC
Just to be clear, if my 4 year old is insane I won't give it a .22

"Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff 

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