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New dev blog: caks and contracts in the API

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CCP Guard
C C P
C C P Alliance
#1 - 2011-09-07 18:12:30 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Guard
CCP Elerhino and the API team have a new dev blog out. Read, rejoice, and leave a comment or question right here.

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Squizz Caphinator
The Wormhole Police
#2 - 2011-09-07 18:16:03 UTC
Keep up the excellent work!

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Trebor Daehdoow
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2011-09-07 19:10:39 UTC
IPI, UPI, we all PI for the API

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Kenpachi Viktor
Perkone
Caldari State
#4 - 2011-09-07 19:31:00 UTC
very nice, IBC

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Mr LaForge
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#5 - 2011-09-07 19:35:58 UTC
Probably the only part of CCP that has a clear vision and goal is the API team.

Stuff Goes here
Hiram Alexander
State Reprisal
#6 - 2011-09-07 19:39:15 UTC
I'm not massively interested in API stuff personally, as I'm not a developer. However...

If I read that right, it's possible to give out an API for a single character, rather than for the whole account, which is how it would normally work. So, if that's possible after all, then my question is this:

If a corp recruiter requested an API key for all of your characters on a particular account, and you handed over the API for a single character instead, would there be an easy indicator that the wrong info. had been given, or would s/he be none the wiser...?
Dierdra Vaal
Interstellar Stargate Syndicate
#7 - 2011-09-07 19:40:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Dierdra Vaal
what is the reason for giving people 10 keys max? In past tests I seem to recall we could make as many as we wanted?

I think more keys would be better - unlimited keys would be best.

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VCBee009
Doomheim
#8 - 2011-09-07 20:15:46 UTC
Liking this. Only thing really missing is any PI related information (i.e contents of Launchpads/silos/custom offices).
Tek Enetheru
Mercury Arms Inc.
Ghostbirds
#9 - 2011-09-07 21:05:13 UTC
Wiki (http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/EVE_API_Account_Status) says that AccountStatus call should return userID, but currently this data is not available in response
(see http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1517090&page=4#106).
Is this is a bug?
Johnathan Roark
Quantum Industries
#10 - 2011-09-07 21:13:24 UTC
Hiram Alexander wrote:
I'm not massively interested in API stuff personally, as I'm not a developer. However...

If I read that right, it's possible to give out an API for a single character, rather than for the whole account, which is how it would normally work. So, if that's possible after all, then my question is this:

If a corp recruiter requested an API key for all of your characters on a particular account, and you handed over the API for a single character instead, would there be an easy indicator that the wrong info. had been given, or would s/he be none the wiser...?


In one of the calls, eve/APIKeyInfo.xml.aspx, there is an attribute that gives the type of key, it can be "corporation", "character", or "account". A recruiter would need to make sure it says "account" or use my website: EVEVERIFY which is for auditing new recruits apis. I am currently in the process of converting to use the new key system and all features are free for everyone atm.

Dierdra Vaal wrote:
what is the reason for giving people 10 keys max? In past tests I seem to recall we could make as many as we wanted?



I agree, this is too few, especially for corporations and will make it difficult to see who is abusing an api. Speaking of which, the log needs updated to indicate what key.

Tek Enetheru wrote:
Wiki (http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/EVE_API_Account_Status) says that AccountStatus call should return userID, but currently this data is not available in response
(see http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1517090&page=4#106).
Is this is a bug?


No, its not a bug, the wiki hasn't been updated yet. If you read up in that thread, you'll see a few places where it was being discussed.

EVEVERIFY - A recruiting API Verification and Audit Tool

Also try out Yapeal for your php api needs
Tek Enetheru
Mercury Arms Inc.
Ghostbirds
#11 - 2011-09-07 21:20:51 UTC
Johnathan Roark wrote:
Tek Enetheru wrote:
Wiki (http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/EVE_API_Account_Status) says that AccountStatus call should return userID, but currently this data is not available in response
(see http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1517090&page=4#106).
Is this is a bug?


No, its not a bug, the wiki hasn't been updated yet. If you read up in that thread, you'll see a few places where it was being discussed.

Is there any other way to get this info? I need to eliminate the possibility of using one account multiple times in my application.
Mechanoid Kryten
N0VA 5
#12 - 2011-09-07 22:03:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Mechanoid Kryten
[deleted] oops.

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Arkady Sadik
Gradient
Electus Matari
#13 - 2011-09-07 23:24:48 UTC
Thank you for hearing to all the cries about customizeable API keys. Also, the transition from the old to the new system was very smooth - thank you!

It used to be that you could get the corp (and alliance) contact list without needing to be a director. This data is readily available in-game to any member in the corp. Would it be possible to get that access back to the character key?
Antihrist Pripravnik
Cultural Enrichment and Synergy of Diversity
Stain Neurodiverse Democracy
#14 - 2011-09-08 00:22:29 UTC
Great news. +1 for API team
J Kunjeh
#15 - 2011-09-08 01:09:03 UTC
This seems to me like a big step forward. Kudos to the API team who brought this to fruition. Gold star on the forehead for CCP.

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Abdiel Kavash
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#16 - 2011-09-08 04:12:47 UTC
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Up to 10 API keys per account

Say whaaaat? I can right now think of 10 different apps I am using, each of which only deserves a limited and mutually different set of access privileges. The limit makes it so that I can give restrictive access to only very few apps, and then you have to have very powerful "general" keys to hand out to everything else.

If you want to prevent abuse, make the limit something sensible, like 50 or 100.

(oh, but surely 300 contacts and 50 fittings will be enough for everyone)
Hello Tiger
#17 - 2011-09-08 05:58:07 UTC
Oddly enough, I don't see ANY mention of other VERY often requested items.

(1) Does this fancy new API include ANY information about Slot 6-10 implants?

(2) Where is the PI info? I've seen a LOT more requests for that around than "fancy customise ability" ones.

For my API usage, I'm seeing ZERO improvement in this new system, and I see a heavy duty hassle down the road having to update applications to use the new system AND all the info on all my accounts when the old system is "discontinued".

At this point, IMO this new API system is going to be a serious waste of my time and effort for NO positive effects whatsoever.
Yophant
#18 - 2011-09-08 11:28:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Yophant
With old API key I could see my corp's industry jobs since i have "Factory Manager", "Rent Research Slot" and "Rent Factory Slot" roles.
New API key system doesn't provide such ability for me.
Is there a way to make these jobs visible for me through API again?

Maybe it's possible to change new API key creation's logic to make all characters (not only Directors and CEOs) being able to create "Corporation" keys, which should provide access according to character roles.
Aineko Macx
#19 - 2011-09-08 11:41:46 UTC
Arcana Mortis
Angels Of Prosperity
#20 - 2011-09-08 12:55:26 UTC
CAK?

what is that?
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