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Why does actual physical security decline so fast? EVE's flawed pvp model

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Electra Magnetic
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2013-05-05 06:47:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Electra Magnetic
http://imgur.com/b7UDkBO

Just saying, one tip toe into a .4 or lower shouldnt mean concord doesnt show up at all, or that the gate guns can be flicked away like peas turning the security status of the system into a joke. If they are going to reward pirates with security tags and better anoms then maybe they should think about helping their newbie pilots by giving them a fair chance in lower security space for a change.

Give new players a chance at getting back at the pirates and moving them out of lowsec. It shouldnt be easy and fruitful to be a pirate. They are suppose to be running from the law, not cornering it all into a little ball called highsec.
Adam Junior
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2013-05-05 09:27:36 UTC
Electra Magnetic wrote:
http://imgur.com/b7UDkBO

Just saying, one tip toe into a .4 or lower shouldnt mean concord doesnt show up at all, or that the gate guns can be flicked away like peas turning the security status of the system into a joke. If they are going to reward pirates with security tags and better anoms then maybe they should think about helping their newbie pilots by giving them a fair chance in lower security space for a change.

Give new players a chance at getting back at the pirates and moving them out of lowsec. It shouldnt be easy and fruitful to be a pirate. They are suppose to be running from the law, not cornering it all into a little ball called highsec.


alternatively you could stop being bad
Josefine Etrange
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2013-05-07 11:23:07 UTC
Electra Magnetic wrote:
http://imgur.com/b7UDkBO

Just saying, one tip toe into a .4 or lower shouldnt mean concord doesnt show up at all, or that the gate guns can be flicked away like peas turning the security status of the system into a joke. If they are going to reward pirates with security tags and better anoms then maybe they should think about helping their newbie pilots by giving them a fair chance in lower security space for a change.

Give new players a chance at getting back at the pirates and moving them out of lowsec. It shouldnt be easy and fruitful to be a pirate. They are suppose to be running from the law, not cornering it all into a little ball called highsec.



Your graph is flawed. Security from concord does decline from 1.0 til 0.5. Below 0.5 there simply IS no security from concord.
Still you are getting ganked in 0.5 much easier than you are getting ganked in 1.0 or god forbid in a newbie system.
What you actually really want is more policy in low-sec empire space to help you against suspects. Better gate guns, police spawns to help you, whatever ...

I do not think that your idea is a good one, sorry dude.
Beaver Retriever
Reality Sequence
#4 - 2013-05-07 22:08:46 UTC
Electra Magnetic wrote:
http://imgur.com/b7UDkBO

Just saying, one tip toe into a .4 or lower shouldnt mean concord doesnt show up at all, or that the gate guns can be flicked away like peas turning the security status of the system into a joke. If they are going to reward pirates with security tags and better anoms then maybe they should think about helping their newbie pilots by giving them a fair chance in lower security space for a change.

Give new players a chance at getting back at the pirates and moving them out of lowsec. It shouldnt be easy and fruitful to be a pirate. They are suppose to be running from the law, not cornering it all into a little ball called highsec.

I'm curious what your definition of a 'nullsec bear' is when you say tags for sec give them 'more power'.

The traditional definition of a 'nullsec bear' is a player who does nothing except rat, the scourge of fleet participation everywhere.

At what point does a PVPing nullsec resident turn into a 'nullsec bear'? When he does something you don't like? When he's being ~dishonorable~?

I am all ears.

Meanwhile, your argument is meaningless. Giving newbie pilots a chance to PVP by introducing CONCORD to lowsec? I can't be the only one who fails to see the connection between CONCORD and PVP.

tldr no your post makes no sense go away.
Kora Ethereal
Ethereal Beings
#5 - 2013-05-07 22:32:49 UTC
So... where's the feedback, Aside from a hilariously flawed argument. What on earth does this have to do with SiSi or Duality? Did you happen to get ganked? By a fleet of Dreads? Because that's all that tends to happen. :P

In all seriousness, wrong forum.

If you wish to continue your discussion I recommend taking it here: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=topics&f=270

SiSi and Duality is home to nothing but PvP'ers, mass-testers, and people that generally enjoy breaking things (producing bugs by causing a ton of explosions :P), and quite frankly very few of us bother w/ our security status.