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How to setup a Machariel for Angel Cartel null sec?
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Ezio Sotken
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-05-06 03:16:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Ezio Sotken
I currently have my machariel setup this way

High slots
7x Republic Fleet 800mm cannons
1x cloak ( null sec necessity)

Medium slots
Pith X-Type X Large shield booster
Pith A-Type Shield amp
Pith C-Type Adaptive Invuln
Pith X-Type explosive hardener
Pith A-Type EM hardener

Low slots
2x Gyrostablizer II ( needs upgrading to faction eventually)
5x Cap Power Relay

Rigs
2x Large CCC I
1x Large CCC II

My question is how do I avoid using so much cap power relays? I tried using flux coils but it is not stable with flux coils.

My capaciter skills are maxed out.

My goal is a perma capstable fit.
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#2 - 2013-05-06 03:23:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Zhilia Mann
Ezio Sotken wrote:
My goal is a perma capstable fit.


Found your problem.

If you just can't or won't give that up -- and you really should, like, now -- then try a medium shield booster or a Gist large instead of the Pith.

Edit: I feel so dirty, but here she is. I'm sure someone can do better, but this fits your specs and applies, umm, way more damage:

[Machariel, angel null *cap stable wtf no*]
Imperial Navy Capacitor Power Relay
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer

Core X-Type 100MN Afterburner
Gist B-Type Large Shield Booster
Pith X-Type Shield Boost Amplifier
Pithum A-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field
Pith A-Type Explosive Deflection Field

800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Fusion L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Fusion L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Fusion L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Fusion L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Fusion L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Fusion L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Fusion L
Improved Cloaking Device II

Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Projectile Ambit Extension I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit II

If you're additionally serious about running a Machariel without a prop mod you can cram all CCCs in the rig slots and drop the CPR for another TE or gyro as you see fit while running a fifth tank slot. But honestly that's the second worst thing about a horrible starting fit, so up to you.

Edit 2: nevermind, I just found a new worst part about it: it only takes two meta 4 CPRs to get that heap stable already. I've been trolled. Oh well.
Katsami
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#3 - 2013-05-06 04:32:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Katsami
When I looked at those lows, my neck snapped so quickly to the side that I nearly paralyzed myself.

Do not try to make a cap-stable Machariel.

Go with the above advice.
Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#4 - 2013-05-06 08:14:12 UTC
Can't you just fit it like a standard L4 mach with t2 guns, cap booster and bling on gyros, TEs and tank?

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Julius Priscus
#5 - 2013-05-06 15:42:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Julius Priscus
this has to be some ******** troll attempt.

and no one fits a cpr to an active shield tanker.

how ever in the case of no trolling

5% cap implants are your friend.
and so is one faction pdu
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2013-05-06 16:08:36 UTC
when face met palm

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Art of Explosions
Ezio Sotken
State War Academy
Caldari State
#7 - 2013-05-06 17:41:25 UTC
Lol, definitely not trolling.

The fit I posted was a eft build and I haven't even done it yet in game. I am used to armor tanking but a vindy is hard to use against null sec angels. So I decided to make setups for a mach which would be easier to use in angel null space.

Thanks for the tips so far.
Ze4K DK
Luxury Yacht Social Club
#8 - 2013-05-06 18:31:55 UTC
Why do you feel it´s necessary to completely break the ships performance in order to make it cap stable? Let it be the fast agile beast it´s supposed to be and just pulse the booster when needed... Roll
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2013-05-06 19:56:57 UTC
I think some people need that ability to afk whenever they want to so the shield booster needs to be running 100%

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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#10 - 2013-05-06 20:12:05 UTC
Here's a ridiculously overspecified ratting fit. Just zoom around with the afterburner running and you'll passive tank the damage most of the time. The shield booster is really there just to top your shields up if you derp and get stuck on an asteroid or something.

[Machariel, Angel Ratter]
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Damage Control II

Domination 100MN Afterburner
Pith C-Type X-Large Shield Booster
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Shield Boost Amplifier II

800mm Repeating Artillery II, Fusion L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Fusion L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Fusion L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Fusion L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Fusion L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Fusion L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Fusion L
[empty high slot]

Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Polycarbon Engine Housing I


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