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Just Another Work Around for Gankers in Hi Sec

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The Reaper J
Kings.Guard.
#1 - 2013-05-06 13:36:54 UTC
Should have seen this coming......allowing hi sec gankers that committed the crimes to work their way back into hi sec safely so they can go and gank more players, by giving them the means to do so. WOW. Unbelievable. The idea is that if they commit the crime, do the time.

Don't go and give them easy ways out. Now there is no point to mining, industry, or anything. They will just gank, go to low sec, collect tags, give to concord, and then come back to hi sec and gank again, OMG, that is the most ridiculous update i have ever seen.

What about the players they gank? The excuse ccp uses is that people will rather stop playing than grind their way back up in security status. That is bull. Then if that's the case, remove hi sec space. There is no point to it. As gankers will be much more, there is no reforming a gank. There is a very well known phrase, "do the crime, do the time". Grinding their way up is the time they doing for being stupid enough to do the crime. Doing that update is just another loophole for things to kill even the noobs in hi sec space, and easily find a way back to hi sec after doing a crime.

This is just another way to show ccp rather support crime. Hey what the heck. So what.

I VOTE REMOVE HIGH SEC SPACE......hahahaha.....that could be good fun.
Kimo Khan
Rage Against All Reds
GunFam
#2 - 2013-05-06 13:42:21 UTC
Problem with your rant: Most High sec gankers keep their -10 status and still gank in high sec with that -10 status. Why would they grind or pay for tags, they don't need them.
Gran Michelotto
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2013-05-06 13:50:59 UTC
There is a well known phrase that comes to mind when reading this rant " U Mad Bro"
Sir Marksalot
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2013-05-06 13:54:33 UTC
The Reaper J wrote:
Should have seen this coming......allowing hi sec gankers that committed the crimes to work their way back into hi sec safely so they can go and gank more players, by giving them the means to do so. WOW. Unbelievable. The idea is that if they commit the crime, do the time.

Don't go and give them easy ways out. Now there is no point to mining, industry, or anything. They will just gank, go to low sec, collect tags, give to concord, and then come back to hi sec and gank again, OMG, that is the most ridiculous update i have ever seen.

What about the players they gank? The excuse ccp uses is that people will rather stop playing than grind their way back up in security status. That is bull. Then if that's the case, remove hi sec space. There is no point to it. As gankers will be much more, there is no reforming a gank. There is a very well known phrase, "do the crime, do the time". Grinding their way up is the time they doing for being stupid enough to do the crime. Doing that update is just another loophole for things to kill even the noobs in hi sec space, and easily find a way back to hi sec after doing a crime.

This is just another way to show ccp rather support crime. Hey what the heck. So what.

I VOTE REMOVE HIGH SEC SPACE......hahahaha.....that could be good fun.


quote so you cant edit
Sir Marksalot
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2013-05-06 13:56:13 UTC
You do realize sec is/will be trivially easy to get if you want it, right? It's not the reason people don't gank.

The reason it doesn't happen more often is that every couple of months CCP rolls out another round of nerfs to it. Go back to mining and cry in corp chat, not here.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#6 - 2013-05-06 13:57:08 UTC
The Reaper J wrote:
Total and Utter Guff


If you squint real hard, you can make it look like you are staring into the wind and not crying.

0/10

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann

Sir Marksalot
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2013-05-06 14:03:35 UTC
Esha Ditrix
#8 - 2013-05-06 14:06:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Esha Ditrix
The Reaper J wrote:
Should have seen this coming......allowing hi sec gankers that committed the crimes to work their way back into hi sec safely so they can go and gank more players, by giving them the means to do so. WOW. Unbelievable. The idea is that if they commit the crime, do the time.

Don't go and give them easy ways out. Now there is no point to mining, industry, or anything. They will just gank, go to low sec, collect tags, give to concord, and then come back to hi sec and gank again, OMG, that is the most ridiculous update i have ever seen.

What about the players they gank? The excuse ccp uses is that people will rather stop playing than grind their way back up in security status. That is bull. Then if that's the case, remove hi sec space. There is no point to it. As gankers will be much more, there is no reforming a gank. There is a very well known phrase, "do the crime, do the time". Grinding their way up is the time they doing for being stupid enough to do the crime. Doing that update is just another loophole for things to kill even the noobs in hi sec space, and easily find a way back to hi sec after doing a crime.

This is just another way to show ccp rather support crime. Hey what the heck. So what.

I VOTE REMOVE HIGH SEC SPACE......hahahaha.....that could be good fun.

order of comprehension:
first try to understand the mechanics before the change, then try to understand what is actualy beeing changed, then rant,
not the other way round...

Its not an exploit, if the game lets you do it...

Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#9 - 2013-05-06 14:16:03 UTC
Sir Marksalot wrote:


They say the truest art comes from what the heart strains from the mind.

I say it comes from the eye, threaded through the scalpel and drawn in the most exquist crimson claret on a canvas of pure terror.

This work certainly meets many of the requirements of the form.

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann

RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#10 - 2013-05-06 14:30:20 UTC
Sir Marksalot wrote:
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=17588879 I thought this was good.


But this is just art. Beautiful art. http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=15081055



Confirming, neither gank would have been possible without Tags4Sec.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon

Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#11 - 2013-05-06 14:31:02 UTC
OP....I know many players that are neg. 10 in High sec and they do not give a shiit about that...you do not need positive sec status to gank in high sec.
Just look at some Gentleman from Marmite Collective...they are doing holy work there...

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Minmatar Citizen160812
The LGBT Last Supper
#12 - 2013-05-06 14:35:04 UTC
The Reaper J wrote:
Should have seen this coming......


There's a lot you should have seen coming apparently. I always wondered why CCP added audio cues to the flagging system...now I know it was for the blind players.
Eram Fidard
Doomheim
#13 - 2013-05-06 15:28:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Eram Fidard
lol.



--->>woooosh>>>>the point--->>>>


your head

Poster is not to be held responsible for damages to keyboards and/or noses caused by hot beverages.

Friggz
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#14 - 2013-05-07 02:33:45 UTC
Before:

Don't fly what you can't afford to lose and don't fly with cargo worth ganking.

After:

Don't fly what you can't afford to lose and don't fly with cargo worth ganking.



Not seeing a problem here.
John E Normus
New Order Logistics
CODE.
#15 - 2013-05-07 03:03:18 UTC
Tags are for chumps. -10 forevah mang!

Between Ignorance and Wisdom

Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#16 - 2013-05-07 03:31:59 UTC
Sir Marksalot wrote:
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=17588879 I thought this was good.


But this is just art. Beautiful art. http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=15081055



Was going to mock OP, but that second kill...

Not sure whether the appropriate response here is contempt, or pity.

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com

Psychotic Monk
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2013-05-07 05:41:01 UTC
Something something sandbox.

Something something how dare you criticize how they want to play.
412nv Yaken
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#18 - 2013-05-07 06:12:13 UTC
The Reaper J wrote:
Should have seen this coming......allowing hi sec gankers that committed the crimes to work their way back into hi sec safely so they can go and gank more players, by giving them the means to do so. WOW. Unbelievable. The idea is that if they commit the crime, do the time.

Don't go and give them easy ways out. Now there is no point to mining, industry, or anything. They will just gank, go to low sec, collect tags, give to concord, and then come back to hi sec and gank again, OMG, that is the most ridiculous update i have ever seen.

What about the players they gank? The excuse ccp uses is that people will rather stop playing than grind their way back up in security status. That is bull. Then if that's the case, remove hi sec space. There is no point to it. As gankers will be much more, there is no reforming a gank. There is a very well known phrase, "do the crime, do the time". Grinding their way up is the time they doing for being stupid enough to do the crime. Doing that update is just another loophole for things to kill even the noobs in hi sec space, and easily find a way back to hi sec after doing a crime.

This is just another way to show ccp rather support crime. Hey what the heck. So what.

I VOTE REMOVE HIGH SEC SPACE......hahahaha.....that could be good fun.


Why would a ganker, go and spend money/time on getting their sec status up to lose it again. Also why are you crying on the forums about something not yet released and really nobody has any idea how this is actually gunna work.....

A True Champion of High Security Space

Karak Bol
Low-Sec Survival Ltd.
#19 - 2013-05-07 06:20:54 UTC
To the OP: Maybe you noticed, that posting this in the C&P Forum wasn´t that smart. Just as you find the industrialsts and carebears in S&I, you will mainly find Pirates and Outlaws here. Btw. loving the new tags4sec :)
dark heartt
#20 - 2013-05-07 07:03:49 UTC
Sir Marksalot wrote:

But this is just art. Beautiful art. http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=15081055



I just want to make sure what I am seeing is right and that my eyes are not faulty or something... That was T1/civilian triple tank fitted Megathron, with 5 x 150mm railguns (of different named types), 1 x 250mm railgun, a faction mining laser and civilian salvager that was killed by a RIFTER???? Where do these people come from?
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