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Which WH's are raided/evicted more often than others?
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Benedict Iscariot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2013-05-04 19:31:31 UTC
Class 1-4...which type is raided, camped, and/or evicted the most?

Anyone have some statistics on this?
Aducat Ragnarson
Blootered Bastards
#2 - 2013-05-04 20:11:30 UTC
Usually the ones that have dickheads in them.

But seriously, the chance of getting evicted from a c1-c4 is pretty ******* low if you set up a well defended large pos. You would REALLY need to **** someone off big time for him to consider evicting a c1-c4.
Of course if you settle for a medium/small tower or a large with bad defense, the chances will go up.
Oxandrolone
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2013-05-04 20:24:42 UTC
Aducat Ragnarson wrote:
Usually the ones that have dickheads in them.

But seriously, the chance of getting evicted from a c1-c4 is pretty ******* low if you set up a well defended large pos. You would REALLY need to **** someone off big time for him to consider evicting a c1-c4.
Of course if you settle for a medium/small tower or a large with bad defense, the chances will go up.


I have not done wormhole merc stuff for a long time (the only time i would consider evicting from a c1-c4) but we were only usually hired when somewon was pissed off at somewon else.

In the c5/c6's people are often evicted if they live in a desired system so if you apply that to low class holes....

c2 with static HS/c2 pulsar is much more likely to get evicted that c3 static NS black hole
Phaderift
Girls Lie But Zkill Doesn't
Pandemic Legion
#4 - 2013-05-04 21:18:14 UTC
the c2 with hs/c4 are usualy rather sought after
Godfrey Silvarna
Arctic Light Inc.
Arctic Light
#5 - 2013-05-04 21:37:39 UTC
I would say that c2's with highsec statics get the most attention and c4's are very unlikely to get invasions ever.
Benedict Iscariot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2013-05-04 21:44:47 UTC
Godfrey Silvarna wrote:
I would say that c2's with highsec statics get the most attention and c4's are very unlikely to get invasions ever.



Why would you say C4's are unlikely to get an invasion?



Also, I can understand the value of keeping to one's self in wormholes when not PvPing.


I am with a small group and we have WH living experience in a C1. Wondering if I should go with a C3 with HS or LS static. Or a C4 with a C3 static.
Godfrey Silvarna
Arctic Light Inc.
Arctic Light
#7 - 2013-05-04 22:03:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Godfrey Silvarna
C4's have two major logistical disadvantages and defense advantages:

#1 They never get direct k-space access, so bringing in invasion fleets and reinforcements and such takes more effort than for c1-c3 holes.

#2 You can not bring in dreadnoughts from adjacent C5's and C6's.

As a result, no one wants to go there.
Bane Nucleus
Dark Venture Corporation
Kitchen Sinkhole
#8 - 2013-05-04 23:25:08 UTC
Two Step posted some numbers a while back. It showed more towers get removed from c2 wormholes than any other class, including c5 and c6 holes. Granted, tower removal doesn't equal eviction (dead sticks) but it's pretty interesting none the less.

No trolling please
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2013-05-04 23:28:32 UTC
Godfrey Silvarna wrote:
C4's have two major logistical disadvantages and defense advantages:

#1 They never get direct k-space access, so bringing in invasion fleets and reinforcements and such takes more effort than for c1-c3 holes.

#2 You can not bring in dreadnoughts from adjacent C5's and C6's.

As a result, no one wants to go there.


Add to the mix that almost all C4 wormholes are only 16 hours instead of 24.
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#10 - 2013-05-05 04:43:21 UTC
C2s, by far.
Theyre the only WHs in that range worth fighting over.

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Josilin du Guesclin
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2013-05-05 04:55:58 UTC
Derath Ellecon wrote:
Godfrey Silvarna wrote:
C4's have two major logistical disadvantages and defense advantages:

#1 They never get direct k-space access, so bringing in invasion fleets and reinforcements and such takes more effort than for c1-c3 holes.

#2 You can not bring in dreadnoughts from adjacent C5's and C6's.

As a result, no one wants to go there.


Add to the mix that almost all C4 wormholes are only 16 hours instead of 24.

Also the sites are nearly as tough as C5s, but with much less loot, and no option of capital escalations. C4s are junk.
Svodola Darkfury
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2013-05-05 06:21:36 UTC
Josilin du Guesclin wrote:
Derath Ellecon wrote:
Godfrey Silvarna wrote:
C4's have two major logistical disadvantages and defense advantages:

#1 They never get direct k-space access, so bringing in invasion fleets and reinforcements and such takes more effort than for c1-c3 holes.

#2 You can not bring in dreadnoughts from adjacent C5's and C6's.

As a result, no one wants to go there.


Add to the mix that almost all C4 wormholes are only 16 hours instead of 24.

Also the sites are nearly as tough as C5s, but with much less loot, and no option of capital escalations. C4s are junk.





Maybe at pre-escalation levels. Just went back and did some C4s today for a training op and it's nowhere near as hair-raising or ISK heavy as C5s.

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Ayeson
State War Academy
Caldari State
#13 - 2013-05-05 07:08:10 UTC
If you call someones mother names the chances of someone trying to evict you are significantly higher.

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Gary Bell
Therapy.
The Initiative.
#14 - 2013-05-05 11:35:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Gary Bell
True Story^^ They will bring all the things.. Oh and watch what you name your towers.. Cuz god forbid you insult someone..

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Bane Nucleus
Dark Venture Corporation
Kitchen Sinkhole
#15 - 2013-05-05 13:04:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Bane Nucleus
Running the badmouth on someone or their corp will definitely inspire them to burn your system to the ground. Lol

As far as trash talking in general, it's one of those things where you can do it all you want, provided you don't whine when they come to pay you a visit. Nothing is worse than people that talk a ton of crap and then turn around and cry about how their system is getting smashed.

No trolling please
Nathan Jameson
Grumpy Bastards
#16 - 2013-05-05 17:34:58 UTC
Bane Nucleus wrote:
Nothing is worse than people that talk a ton of crap and then turn around and cry about how their system is getting smashed.


Man, this happens to us every time we burn somebody down. P

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Qumar Nuom
Clandestine Services
#17 - 2013-05-06 11:23:04 UTC
Josilin du Guesclin wrote:


Also the sites are nearly as tough as C5s, but with much less loot, and no option of capital escalations. C4s are junk.





That Sir is a purely fictional assumption, maybe you should start to think out of the (Tengu*?) box?


*although you could dualbox C4 anoms with Tengus as well, which is not possible with any C5 anom...
Archdaimon
Merchants of the Golden Goose
#18 - 2013-05-06 11:39:39 UTC
C4's are nowhere near as difficult as c5's. Not by a margin.

C4's with static c2/c3's is a relatively safe place with good exits to hi and options for solo/group play.

If you (against all advice) insist on starting living in WH's in a new corp by yourself, I'd say c4's is the place to start. Don't be too risk adverse though. Make sure you shoot some spaceships every now and then..

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Mcpate
Unknown Means Unknown Consequenses
#19 - 2013-05-06 12:22:17 UTC
Bane Nucleus wrote:
Running the badmouth on someone or their corp will definitely inspire them to burn your system to the ground. Lol

As far as trash talking in general, it's one of those things where you can do it all you want, provided you don't whine when they come to pay you a visit. Nothing is worse than people that talk a ton of crap and then turn around and cry about how their system is getting smashed.


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Josilin du Guesclin
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2013-05-06 13:13:43 UTC
Qumar Nuom wrote:
Josilin du Guesclin wrote:


Also the sites are nearly as tough as C5s, but with much less loot, and no option of capital escalations. C4s are junk.





That Sir is a purely fictional assumption, maybe you should start to think out of the (Tengu*?) box?


*although you could dualbox C4 anoms with Tengus as well, which is not possible with any C5 anom...
We don't use RR Tengus. We use T3s, Command Ships, and Caldari or Amarr logis (shield or armour depending on WH type). It's just worth the time doing C4s compared to C5s with a pair of logis plus DPS.
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