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The "solution" to Jita congestion.
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Col Arran
Doomheim
#1 - 2013-05-05 21:17:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Col Arran
If you look at dotlan you can see a cluster of 3 systems with high security status and the same facilities here. All the systems are 1 jump away from eachother making for easy transit between them.

Simply expand the Jita trade hub to the other 2 systems in the cluster. It would make for lighter load on the nodes and could provide for trading opportunities between systems.

EDIT: Realized a goal is a good thing to have so, if anyone wants to help in this venture New Caldari II (Matias) - Kaalakiota Corporation Factory will be my target station for stocking.
Nyancat Audeles
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2013-05-05 21:20:29 UTC
I SAY that CCP should eliminate Jita local (chat, not player list) and make room for a couple more people. No one needs scammers in these systems, and let's just eliminate local chat to make room for others to come in the system.
Danni stark
#3 - 2013-05-05 21:21:03 UTC
solution to jita congestion?

stop ******* going to jita.

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Lady Areola Fappington
#4 - 2013-05-05 21:22:33 UTC
Well, hop to it! Posting on the forum isn't gonna get those trade hubs shifted, you're gonna have to seed the markets and make it attractive.

CCP didn't make the trade hubs, us players did. You may be shocked to find out, but, at one time, a little system called Yulai was the EVE trade hub. Memories.....

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Col Arran
Doomheim
#5 - 2013-05-05 21:22:44 UTC
Nyancat Audeles wrote:
I SAY that CCP should eliminate Jita local (chat, not player list) and make room for a couple more people. No one needs scammers in these systems, and let's just eliminate local chat to make room for others to come in the system.


If you actually look at the chat the characters who are just there to scam are maybe 0.1% of the system's population. The problem with Jita is that its the only trade hub in the area and being so well known everyone goes there. Getting rid of a few scammers would free up maybe 100 slots at most.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#6 - 2013-05-05 21:26:14 UTC
Lady Areola Fappington wrote:
Well, hop to it! Posting on the forum isn't gonna get those trade hubs shifted, you're gonna have to seed the markets and make it attractive.

CCP didn't make the trade hubs, us players did. You may be shocked to find out, but, at one time, a little system called Yulai was the EVE trade hub. Memories.....



^^^^^

This is EVE. If you don't like the way something player created is working, change it.

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Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#7 - 2013-05-05 21:28:25 UTC
Everybody gets a number when they jump into Jita. When the system is full, the one with the lowest number gets booted when someone else jumps in. This way people have some 1-2k seconds to finish business and get out again before they get kicked when the system is busy. Also spam bots will drop out instead of clogging up the system.

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Col Arran
Doomheim
#8 - 2013-05-05 21:30:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Col Arran
RubyPorto wrote:
Lady Areola Fappington wrote:
Well, hop to it! Posting on the forum isn't gonna get those trade hubs shifted, you're gonna have to seed the markets and make it attractive.

CCP didn't make the trade hubs, us players did. You may be shocked to find out, but, at one time, a little system called Yulai was the EVE trade hub. Memories.....



^^^^^

This is EVE. If you don't like the way something player created is working, change it.


I plan to but I'm just one man in a one man corp, I can change things eventually but its going to take a very long time all by my lonesome. I want to get help from other players in this venture so that it can actually succeed. As has been pointed out, players who take the time to read and post on the forums generally care about the game more so I want to get the support of the forum community in this.

Tackling one system at a time will be the best way to go around this so if anyone wants to help in this venture New Caldari II (Matias) - Kaalakiota Corporation Factory will be my target station for stocking.
Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
#9 - 2013-05-05 21:38:41 UTC
Oh, this is new and interesting. Roll

Instance #4579 of the OP's 'new' idea.
Tyrendian Biohazard
The Bastards
Sedition.
#10 - 2013-05-05 21:44:47 UTC
I don't recall it ever taking me more than a minute or two to get into the system. Why is this needed? Because you can't autopilot into the system?

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Noriko Mai
#11 - 2013-05-05 21:49:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Noriko Mai
Col Arran wrote:
Nyancat Audeles wrote:
I SAY that CCP should eliminate Jita local (chat, not player list) and make room for a couple more people. No one needs scammers in these systems, and let's just eliminate local chat to make room for others to come in the system.


If you actually look at the chat the characters who are just there to scam are maybe 0.1% of the system's population. The problem with Jita is that its the only trade hub in the area and being so well known everyone goes there. Getting rid of a few scammers would free up maybe 100 slots at most.

My blocklist says 297 so this will be ~15%. And the scammers are there all the time. Most of the players buy/sell and leave.

"Meh.." - Albert Einstein
Shirah Yuri
Tonic Empire
#12 - 2013-05-05 22:16:32 UTC
I don't think it's easy to avoid the congestions for events like today's. However, there might be plenty of ways to kinda put a pressure on the market to spread out orders to different systems/hubs.

Something that I would find intriguing is having the NPC's of Jita behave a little more market-oriented. Like... if there's LOTS of orders taking place in Jita, and there is by far no place matching it for ISK turnaround, why wouldn't they increase the market taxes some, to make more ISK to maintain their infrastructrure?

That could be generalized in a nice way, having NPC stations scale the market tax based on the daily ISK turnaround in the system or constellation. That would make one-stop-shops like Jita both slightly more expensive and work as an additional ISK sink. Regional markets could benefit from having lower market tax than Jita, boosting their usage. Giving a great boost to inter-regional trade as well.

I think this line of thought would be well worth considering.
Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2013-05-05 22:22:08 UTC
If you change Jita alone players will just remake Jita someplace else.

The keys issues, if you don't like the Jita situation are:

* Unlimited storage space in stations.
* Near instant and free stargage jumps and docking/undocking no matter the size of your ship and cargo.

Change this and people will spread out among the stars.

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Solhild
Doomheim
#14 - 2013-05-05 22:22:10 UTC
I prefer EVE having a busy trade hub with lots going on. CCP should just work on the technology to cope with Jita.
The fireworks wouldn't have helped, I suspect they create awful lag - especially when a 'shoal' of them are chasing an orbiting interceptor.
Corey Fumimasa
CFM Salvage
#15 - 2013-05-05 22:28:12 UTC
The way to "fix" Jita would be to put it on the absolute worst node on the server. Maybe set TiDi to 10% just because. A few months of that and traffic would start to thin out.

Hey! Wait a minute!!!?
Noriko Mai
#16 - 2013-05-05 22:31:59 UTC
Corey Fumimasa wrote:
[...] Maybe set TiDi to 10% just because. [...]

Hey! Wait ten minutes!!!?

fixed that for you Lol

"Meh.." - Albert Einstein
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#17 - 2013-05-05 22:46:13 UTC
Lady Areola Fappington wrote:
CCP didn't make the trade hubs, us players did. You may be shocked to find out, but, at one time, a little system called Yulai was the EVE trade hub. Memories.....

For what it is worth, Perimeter and Sobaseki are also decent trade hubs.
Julius Rigel
#18 - 2013-05-05 22:48:14 UTC
Col Arran wrote:
Realized a goal is a good thing to have so, if anyone wants to help in this venture New Caldari II (Matias) - Kaalakiota Corporation Factory will be my target station for stocking.
Do you have T2 overdrives yet? I need some T2 overdrives if you're selling them at Matias.

Do YOU like to undock?
Large Collidable Object
morons.
#19 - 2013-05-05 22:53:17 UTC
I agree it's the players who made Jita, however, the reasons why we made it Jita are beased in Eves 'geography'. Just drop Niarja, Uedama and a few other systems to .4 and the issue should be fixed.
You know... [morons.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gjOx65yD5A)
Nex apparatu5
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#20 - 2013-05-05 23:10:39 UTC
Large Collidable Object wrote:
I agree it's the players who made Jita, however, the reasons why we made it Jita are beased in Eves 'geography'. Just drop Niarja, Uedama and a few other systems to .4 and the issue should be fixed.


Or just drop Jita to 0.4
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