Intergalactic Summit

Please spare me, your last attempt at propaganda was awful. You aren't really going to be on a much better foot with this one.

The people may well be different, I've experienced enough of both to know this myself. But your associate's comments were struck out with a rather obvious goal in mind, and it happened to be on the same lines as someone else's. If you're offended I compared the two people well, that's just you reading too much into the fact they both tried to pull the same terrible line of propaganda.

Trust me, I would compare few people directly to Tomhorn. Your associate isn't one of them.

Point still stands, they used Federal cynicism for a rather obvious political move to make one of their own. Now unless you're saying it was for something as petty as just scoring "zingers" on a discussion forum, why else would they both have made the statements they did?




I firmly agree with the latter, egos are there to be shattered in the current mess of things. The former is far more difficult so long as trust simply does not exist between certain groups of people. Let us hope those bridges are built with time, sooner than later preferably.

Have all of you figured out where her eventual salvation will come from yet? You're going to love it.

Firstly, I don't play at propaganda. A colleague in the militia asked me to make certain facts known to the wider capsuleer community. I did this. In case you haven't noticed the sort of people you have out there attempting to steal State territory in your name in the Black Rise region.

My involvement was limited strictly to making the report, which I correctly dubbed 'disturbing'. Others then proceeded to argue the case. If you didn't, personally, find XGallentius' response to be a little bit disturbing then you have a stronger stomach than I do.

Secondly, you attempted to suggest that Horn-haan and Kyiokinnen-haani were doing the same thing and, to me, that suggests the same goal and the same intent. They were not. Kyiokinnen-haani is a front-line soldier and a Patriot. Horn-haan has never been seen near the front lines and is a Provist. If Kyiokinnen-haani had any motive beyond a simple disgust for the usual suspects who crawled over here to demean the Caldari State I'm sure I don't know what it is.

Thirdly, it's started to become apparent that any statement that is negative towards the Federation is now being written off as 'Propaganda' by Gallente Apologists. I'm saddened to have to point out that where this tactic is applied indiscriminately it is, itself, propaganda. Spin Control.

Unless you'd have us believe that the Federation is faultless and pure?

As well as flowery, contemptuous friendliness.



That sure is a lot of strawman arguments in the same piece of drivel.

Speaking of people not knowing people, you couldn't be way more off the mark Tuulinen.


Though I'll be expecting some form of alcohol in exchange for the insult.



I prefer to call it criticism. See when I make remarks against the Federation it's actually based on merit of things they have done, or things they should have done but didn't.

Unfortunately when trying to judge a person's means and intentions you go by their track record. This isn't just a move that Heth is doing trying to out maneuver the Federation but his own enemies within the State. It matches quite perfectly with his recent series of rants and ramblings.

Of course there is a possibility that he may well wish for the Ray's recovery. But while cynicism will never forge peace, nor does blind faith form any real bonds of trust that aren't going to be abused and twisted to serve one side's needs.

The issue with such approach is that we then criticise and judge those who assume a defensive position for not being overly trusting. While in an ideal situation we can all take people at face value and accept that they have the best of intentions, we are sadly not in an ideal situation. Those people holding reservations tend to do so for quite legitimate reasons, and have valid concerns that should be addressed, not be criticised for having them.

I believe where we can start to draw the line, is between founded concerns based on someone's historical track record, and abject paranoia because of an unrelated agent and work to allay the fears of the concerned that the party speaking with them is quite a different kettle of fish, so to speak.


Sadly regardless of the path taken, there will be suffering. Such is the way humans are. Whether people suffer because of a lack of trust, or they suffer because someone exploited their giving of trust, there will always be suffering, because there will always be people out there looking out for themselves instead of looking to work towards a greater accomplishment.

I think I see your viewpoint Miss. No need to apologise.

Were the Empress to offer advanced Amarrian medical technology to the Minmatar in return for selling 50% of their population into slavery, when they refused, Blake would also accuse the Republic government of desiring Ms. Midular's death.