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Star Citizen you think it be better then EVE?

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Indahmawar Fazmarai
#41 - 2013-05-05 11:48:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Indahmawar Fazmarai
The main threat that SC poses to EVE, is that it is a classical game. SC is the "main thing" to many people who settle with EVE because that's what it's on the market and not because after years of space freelancing, they just dreamed of EVE.

As for SC, it is not an MMO and will lack EVE's massiveness, but if SC had existed in 2008 and worked as hinted, I would never have tried EVE and would had stickied with my joystick controlled WW2-like space dogfighting...

Seen from EVE, SC will have permadeath, avatar gameplay (ship boarding), avatar social spaces, interactable ships (up to 1.5 kilometers long and 30 million polygons), embedded live events, instanced multiplayer in a single permanent universe, private moddable servers, and so. They're not attempting to imitate EVE, but to use the market real state that EVE doesn't fills.
The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#42 - 2013-05-05 11:58:27 UTC  |  Edited by: The Antiquarian
Rovinia wrote:
Just wait and see... everything else is speculation. Much of eyecandy and promises out there atm, but that happened with other hyped games like "Hellgate London" and many more.

I think it will be very hard for every new game to reach the deept of eve, and thats what i really like on this game and why i'm still playing. If Star Citizen is good, i will play it. Doesn't mean i cancel my Eve accout for it. It doesn't has another monthly fee as i can see...


Rovinia is absolutely right. Everything looks nice on videos. The game publisher will only capture the "best of moments" for public and most of the times, the videos fall far short of all the promises made by these video game makers.

From time to time, other game developers will take us to high places where all kingdoms can be seen, and whisper us with promises of great glory.

Just like what Jesus did, do not fall prey to those temptations. The Gate of Kingdom is only through the EVE Gate. Not Star Ctizen dingleberry ****.
Rebecha Pucontis
Doomheim
#43 - 2013-05-05 12:04:05 UTC
For any other company catching up on ten years of development will be a mammoth task for them. But anyway Star Citizen doesn't actually look similar to Eve at all except for the fact that you fly a spaceship.
Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
#44 - 2013-05-05 14:39:31 UTC
Rebecha Pucontis wrote:
For any other company catching up on ten years of development will be a mammoth task for them. But anyway Star Citizen doesn't actually look similar to Eve at all except for the fact that you fly a spaceship.


Development wise not really. A lot of Eves coding is ancient and not really modernized. The main reason there isn't much competition is because many don't see it as a good investment. It's a very niche market with an already established filler.

CCP's Motto: If it isn't broken, break it. If it is broken, ignore it. Improving NPE / Dynamic New Eden

Elistea
BLUE Regiment.
#45 - 2013-05-05 14:42:01 UTC
Cesar Caltrans wrote:
Hello

Star Citizen. okay I just started looking in to this game and so far I like it from what I saw on Video
it has a nice Video also
when I first started playing eve way back then I got in to it because I liked the videos they made and when I played the game it was good.

BUT

Now what do you think of Star Citizen Compared to Eve online
think it be Good ?
just something that will die out fast like other games in the past ?

Don't get me wrong I love my Eve.
but I also been looking for a better game that has what I want in it.
Eve has served me well over there years. but like an old toy you have to put it away some times and try something fresh Shocked
to keep wanting to play with it.

So again what do think of the 2 games ?


Star citizen looks awesome and may have great potential. But there is no way it can get even close to where EVE is atm. You just can't create a game like EVE over night. Mby after 10 years it will be where EVE is today :)
Dyphorus
Inritus Astrum
#46 - 2013-05-05 14:44:10 UTC
Everything released about the game indicates the only thing it will have in common with EVE is space and space ships. The games aren't really comparable.
Sarko Ernaga
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#47 - 2013-05-05 15:17:59 UTC
I hope both games will do well and its communities support each other. I am both a EVE player and huge SC fan and pledger.
Agaetis Byrjun Endalaust
#48 - 2013-05-05 15:26:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Agaetis Byrjun Endalaust
From the very small details we have on the game mechanics there are already 2 huge issues

First: instances. Ok, you can't have an Asakai battle rendered in realtime with the details of a singleplayer mission but this brings to further troubles. How to organize different fleets and reinforcements if the system decides who can warp into an instance and who cannot? Try to imagine how often in EVE fights escalate. There won't be much of an escalation at all in SC. Never, ever.

Second: it won't be a sandbox. There will be mining, planetary production and manufacturing but the market fluctuations will be compensated by NPC's who will be selling the same goods as the players at a variale rate and price, in order to avoid market manipulation. Yo Jita alts, I feel your pain!

So even if I threw quite some money at Chris Roberts and I'm waiting for something to play, I really wish that we'll have some EVR environement to drool on in the near or even not-so-near future. I will happily sell my SC account and worship CCP till the times are fulfilled

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Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
#49 - 2013-05-05 15:38:18 UTC
Agaetis Byrjun Endalaust wrote:


Second: it won't be a sandbox. There will be mining, planetary production and manufacturing but the market fluctuations will be compensated by NPC's who will be selling the same goods as the players at a variale rate and price, in order to avoid market manipulation. Yo Jita alts, I feel your pain!


This was done in Eve early on as well. Most of the mineral market was seeded with buy orders. Now if SC is going to keep it later on once the market stabilizes is unknown.

CCP's Motto: If it isn't broken, break it. If it is broken, ignore it. Improving NPE / Dynamic New Eden

Agaetis Byrjun Endalaust
#50 - 2013-05-05 16:51:20 UTC
He didn't say there will be NPC supplies untill the players are able to fulfill all the demand, but to avoid speculations. So only because of this last part, the "no speculation", I assume it means "no sanbox" either now or in the future. But yeah, there is nothing really clear atm.

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Mhax Arthie
Doomheim
#51 - 2013-05-05 17:36:14 UTC
Kids these days maybe have no clue about who Chris Roberts is, but for those who played the epic Wing Commander series and also Freelancer, Sir Roberts is a God. SC is a very ambitious project, but since Sir Chris Robert is on charge, I pledged to SC through kickstarter and now Im a proud owner of a Aurora ship that I will able to fly maybe even this summer on the alpha test servers. Just the fact that I will be able to sit, walk and sleep on my iown ship makes me count the days until the beta begins. SC will be apic, no doubt about it.
Some Rando
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#52 - 2013-05-05 17:42:40 UTC
Mhax Arthie wrote:
epic Wing Commander series

Felt like you were flying a ******* turret in space, they were terrible games. Privateer was awesome just by virtue of the other game elements. Nothing from Privateer on back had a decent "flight" model, kinda jaded me to any later games which I never played.

All that being said, SC looks pretty good from the few videos I've watched but the previously discussed "PvP slider", if it still exists, is stupid.

CCP has no sense of humour.

Galatea Galilei
Summa Universalia
#53 - 2013-05-05 18:40:48 UTC
Some Rando wrote:
All that being said, SC looks pretty good from the few videos I've watched but the previously discussed "PvP slider", if it still exists, is stupid.

Well, they'll have that and a matchmaking system. SC will be a much better game for PvP than EVE if you enjoy combat with targets that shoot back and have a reasonable chance of winning, e.g. there's real risk to the attacker as well as the attacked party. It's another area where the above comparison to GW1 is apt -- it'll be a lot easier to find/enjoy competitive PvP matches, albeit in a much more contrived way.

We're really comparing apples and oranges here...

For the record, Kerbal Space Program is better than EVE. ;)
Captain Tardbar
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#54 - 2013-05-05 18:47:59 UTC
I have no desire to play a fighter sim game nor do I think my computer can even handle running Star Citizen at minimum specs, but....

It has gained over 9 million in crowd funding from people who are looking foward to the game and the mechanics are pretty much state of the art.

Also the start citizen devs mentioned that they thought EVE clones were too lenient as a way to avoid suffering because of death. I'm sure I can google that statement but I figure I'd let everyone else do the work for me.

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ISD Suvetar
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#55 - 2013-05-05 19:31:51 UTC
Moved to the correct forum for discussing other games.

Thanks.

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Rain6638
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#56 - 2013-05-06 07:20:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Rain6638
don't tell CCP I said this, but... I like a game that can be scaled in terms of clicks and inputs per minute depending on how bad my ADD flares up. a brilliant stroke of luck that the EVE client is so manageable with multiple instances. great idea that I can do something like skill up while I am away.

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Brujo Loco
Brujeria Teologica
#57 - 2013-05-06 14:28:58 UTC
Yesssss ... GD crapping on us againnnnnn ... Lol



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Commissar Kate
Kesukka
#58 - 2013-05-06 14:30:42 UTC
Not again.

All I have to say is that eve has a pretty good head start.
Kirjava
Lothian Enterprises
#59 - 2013-05-06 14:31:27 UTC
Kirjava wrote:
This thread is a cloud.

I predict those in OOPE will need an umbrella soon.


CAlled it again, damn I'm getting good at this Lol

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Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
#60 - 2013-05-06 14:35:17 UTC
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