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Tengu'd for the last time.

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Anyura
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2013-05-04 22:10:43 UTC
I am officially Done with exploration and combat sites.

Time and again, I spend ages clearing a site only for some [expletive deleted] to show up in a goddamn T3 cruiser, steal the faction spawn and zip off. I can't tank an entire goddamn site in a battlecruiser or whatever piece of crap ship I manage to cobble together with the pathetic cashflow I have from radar sites and missions.

So in a nutshell, how the hell do I manage to compete with some [expletive deleted] in an [adjective deleted] T3 cruiser?

.....

Ok, I think I'm done ranting. Some objective input would be greatly valued as well as the usual "biomass character, gief stuff, delete EVE," etc.
Annunaki soldier
Perkone
Caldari State
#2 - 2013-05-04 22:17:47 UTC
can i have your stuff ?

Ride hard, live with passionĀ 

Estella Osoka
Cranky Bitches Who PMS
#3 - 2013-05-04 22:19:47 UTC
2010 character that can't fly a tengu herself? Sounds like a troll.
Jazmyn Stone
Perkone
Caldari State
#4 - 2013-05-04 23:12:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Jazmyn Stone
Get yourself a T3 Cruiser too, then fit it with mods that will . . .

. . . wait a sec, I broke a nail . . .

. . . nm


-Jaz

Always remember Tovil-Toba, and what was done there.

Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2013-05-04 23:33:10 UTC
Get out of highsec
Moonlit Raid
Doomheim
#6 - 2013-05-04 23:56:02 UTC
Annunaki soldier wrote:
can i have your stuff ?

And thus the scourage of the EVE universe presents itself.

If brute force isn't working, you're just not using enough.

Please Note: Any advice given comes with the caveat that nothing will be suitable for every situation.

Ludi Burek
Exit-Strategy
Minmatar Fleet Alliance
#7 - 2013-05-05 00:01:41 UTC
You need to put more effort into not being bad.
hellcane
Never Back Down
#8 - 2013-05-05 00:07:22 UTC
How do you compete? Try harder.

Or go to wow so you can get handouts
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2013-05-05 02:23:25 UTC
try moving to a less populated area, preferably in low/null. You'll find a lot less people are willing to ninjaloot you when there is a risk to losing their ship.
James Baboli
Warp to Pharmacy
#10 - 2013-05-05 02:24:21 UTC
Move to mining. Mine up the isk for a T3 / navy turret BS. Run incursions for a few days, make super shiny T3 o'doom for yourself.

Talking more,

Flying crazier,

And drinking more

Making battleships worth the warp

Paikis
Vapour Holdings
#11 - 2013-05-05 04:20:51 UTC
Stop. Being. Bad.
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#12 - 2013-05-05 04:42:31 UTC
Paikis wrote:
Stop. Being. Bad.

^this

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Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#13 - 2013-05-05 04:47:43 UTC
Jack Miton wrote:
Paikis wrote:
Stop. Being. Bad.

^this


I would never empty quote an empty quote.
Tauranon
Weeesearch
CAStabouts
#14 - 2013-05-05 04:48:01 UTC
If there is a cruiser or probes on dscan move to the gates and shoot from there. If you are in last pocket kill overseer first. If tengu joins your bc at last gate mwd - yes mwd to overseer, turn safety off and don't shoot overseer until its clear you will get there in time.

Most explorers have pimp items either in cargo or on ship and if go for the loot tag they get most of the pocket aggro. Nobody engages an angry bc over an unknown loot drop with pocket aggro in a t3, and almost no t3s have a point, so you can leave anyway.

Dato Koppla
Balls Deep Inc.
Minmatar Fleet Alliance
#15 - 2013-05-05 09:05:25 UTC
You're a pretty old character, if you don't know what to do at all in that situations and want to quit because of it, EvE is not for you, please go ahead.
l0rd carlos
the king asked me to guard the mountain
#16 - 2013-05-05 09:39:23 UTC
Fly in lowsec!

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Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#17 - 2013-05-05 19:18:38 UTC
For some reason I'm in a more constructive mood today. So here goes.

Option 1) Just get the hell out of Caldari space. No one is going to steal Blood Raider sites from you, for instance. Yes, I know Guristas have the best drops. Everyone knows that. So there's too much competition.

Option 2) Try low sec. It's not nearly as frightening as it sounds. Higher risk, yes, but you can make a ton of cash that way.

Option 3) Fit a point and fit to counter a Tengu. I'd probably suggest using a Loki for this but it's not the only option. Fun fact: exploration Tengus often drop better loot than overseers.

In all honesty, people compete with the flocks of Tengus in high sec every day. When a GSO gets competed, Tengus usually win. But they don't always get there and the sites respawn more or less instantly; it's just a matter of finding another one.

And as for lousy money from missions: well. Sorry, but that's simply not true. You should easily be able to fund your own Tengu based on mission income if you care to do so.
Auduin Samson
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2013-05-06 01:34:38 UTC
Every ship and mod I've bought since I started running L4 missions has been paid for by said L4 missions. If you can't afford to get a decent ship with mission isk, you're doing something wrong.
Noztra Ernaga
m o t i o n
#19 - 2013-05-06 08:26:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Noztra Ernaga
I used to have no problems scanning down and blitzing 4/10 DED in an all-in-one passive Drake = ordinary BC. On top of that you've got drones to clear those annoying frigates faster than the Tengu. Please, try to get better instead of insulting other people.

What about L4 missions and income..., I am curious how you could call that pathetic, to properly fly an ordinary Raven is two months of skilling or so.

I will not ask for your stuff, because you probably have none then Blink
Kiithid Soban
State War Academy
Caldari State
#20 - 2013-05-06 08:48:45 UTC
I usually use a Harpy for my Caldari Explo, and a Tengu when I'm not. I get 'Tengu'd' daily in both, it's fairly simple to beat one in 3/10-4/10 DEDs. Just ignore him and take the loot regardless of who scores the final hit. Not many explo fit Tengus are fit to intercept an Assault Frigate or another Tengu in my experience. In Amarr space, for instance, you will almost never be bothered by another Tengu and still be able to surmount a fairly good amount of loot by the end of the day.

Level 4 Cashflow has bought most of my ships in my career in Eve, albeit there are better ways to make money in this game, it certainly isn't the worst. It's all about efficiency there.

Cheers
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