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Is Eve a young mans game?
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Corey Fumimasa
CFM Salvage
#1 - 2013-05-04 21:05:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Corey Fumimasa
I am 40 years old, my goals have always been about seeing and doing as much as possible while here.

You can meet a lot of people in Eve and have no idea who they are like physically. They could be very fat, or very skinny, or old or young, or deaf, or rich or poor. They could speak with a lisp or have a cleft pallet or perhaps be physically hideous but have a wonderful voice.

Just today I met two men who are much younger than I would have guessed. I have fleeted with them before and spoken with them on the forums. Both are FC's and wear the mask of command well. They each have some rough edges and breaks that will no doubt smooth out over time as such things do. But the experience got me to thinking.

How is Eve different from the RW? We interact with others and learn from our mistakes and apply that knowledge to future pursuits. The way to be successful in Eve, as in RL, is to organize people and to motivate others. In this way Eve is a great training ground and a terrific experience.

Has Eve helped you become more confident? Learn speaking skills and how to think under preasure? Do you consider Eve as something that could go on a resume'? Or is just a game, a harmless pass time with no value beyond entertainment. For the older people here do you think that you would be a better, more successful, person today if you had been exposed to Eve as a teenager?

Thanks for your time, and as always, thanks to everyone who makes the game what it is.
Esharan
State War Academy
Caldari State
#2 - 2013-05-04 21:09:30 UTC
Eve is a video game. Not real life.
Garresh
Mackies Raiders
Wild Geese.
#3 - 2013-05-04 21:09:39 UTC
Yes.

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Varius Xeral
Doomheim
#4 - 2013-05-04 21:10:52 UTC
I've always believed in Eve as a great learning experience, especially because you can push the envelope with risks and experiments that you couldn't IRL. In Eve, if everything really goes **** up, you can just buy a new char and start all over again.

That said, you should obviously take your experiences with a hefty serving of salt in terms of their relevance to RL, as it is far from a one to one translation.

Overall I encourage people to try things they would never try IRL, and I guarantee they will learn relevant things about themselves and others that have RL applicability that they may have never otherwise had the opportunity to experience.

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Christopher AET
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2013-05-04 21:12:23 UTC
In my experience many of the top alliance leaders and fleet commanders do tend to be younger. With exceptions of course. I have been in an alliance (Intrepid Crossing) with an older leadership and they were unreceptive to changes and ultimately failed as a result.

I drain ducks of their moisture for sustenance.
Masuka Taredi
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2013-05-04 21:14:26 UTC
Eve is a thinking persons game. Only those who have enough patience and perseverance to attain their goals tend to stay around. Many people play it differently and get different things from it. That variety is what makes it so fun!
Corey Fumimasa
CFM Salvage
#7 - 2013-05-04 21:20:27 UTC
Christopher AET wrote:
In my experience many of the top alliance leaders and fleet commanders do tend to be younger. With exceptions of course. I have been in an alliance (Intrepid Crossing) with an older leadership and they were unreceptive to changes and ultimately failed as a result.


My very first alliance was IC. I left because there was such an expanse between the leadership and the new players. I met some people that I liked there, but I have to agree with you that their failure was one of stagnation and non communication from leadership.
Christopher AET
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2013-05-04 21:28:09 UTC
The fleet commanders at IRC near the end were pushing things in the right direction (remember people saying "IRC seem to be improving") . However the High command were at best absent and at worst a negative influence. Case in point I once had my whole fleet mute a member of high command for being non-constructive in a fleet. iirc much of the IRC command were in their 40's and 50's.

I drain ducks of their moisture for sustenance.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2013-05-04 21:35:32 UTC
Christopher AET wrote:
The fleet commanders at IRC near the end were pushing things in the right direction

Oops.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Indahmawar Fazmarai
#10 - 2013-05-04 21:40:02 UTC
Christopher AET wrote:
In my experience many of the top alliance leaders and fleet commanders do tend to be younger. With exceptions of course. I have been in an alliance (Intrepid Crossing) with an older leadership and they were unreceptive to changes and ultimately failed as a result.


That's because RL > EVE and younger dudes got less RL to hamper with their EVE "career".

As The Oatmeal put it...


Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#11 - 2013-05-04 21:41:59 UTC
Wasn't the average age of EVE players around 30?

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Vera Algaert
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2013-05-04 21:48:50 UTC
We once talked about age in corp chat and my corpmates thought I must be 50 because I'm always so bitter. I'm in my mid twenties Sad

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Setaceous
Nexus Prima
#13 - 2013-05-04 23:59:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Setaceous
Abrazzar wrote:
Wasn't the average age of EVE players around 30?

Sounds about right, according to the ESA that's the average age of all gamers. Though it's pretty hard to find international numbers easily (ESA numbers tend to be US based).

EDIT: for the record, I'm 39 this month.
Large Collidable Object
morons.
#14 - 2013-05-05 00:56:53 UTC
Corey Fumimasa wrote:
For the older people here do you think that you would be a better, more successful, person today if you had been exposed to Eve as a teenager?



IMHO no - personal behaviour in Eve will mostly reflect someones personality regardless of age and unless someone played extensively during his teen years, I think its influence will be more detrimental than helpful because it lets people indulge into their characters and delusions of grandeur, whilst neglecting RL social skills.

I personally started eve exactly after graduating from University in 2004, because offline skill training seemed perfect because I would have far less time to practice after that.

Since that, I have to make more or less important decisions on a daily basis and I like taking over in RL, however, in Eve, I like to sit back and be a grunt just as a counterbalance to that.

Got pushed into director roles quite a few times early on, but not anymore - I play soleley to relax. 
You know... [morons.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gjOx65yD5A)
Large Collidable Object
morons.
#15 - 2013-05-05 00:59:02 UTC
sorry - DP
You know... [morons.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gjOx65yD5A)
C DeLeon
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#16 - 2013-05-05 01:01:45 UTC  |  Edited by: C DeLeon
Younger generations don't have the required patience for this game. I know about myself that I did not have when I first tried it many years ago. I'm thankful that the game is still around when I'm more grown up now and less crazy/wild/rebellious.

Edit: If I would have sticked to it too early I would live in a basement Twisted
Ryu Ibarazaki
Doomheim
#17 - 2013-05-05 01:05:31 UTC
If you want content though, gather up all your high school kids and make them diplomats. Things will start happening. Cool
NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
#18 - 2013-05-05 01:34:10 UTC
Corey Fumimasa wrote:

Has Eve helped you become more confident? Learn speaking skills and how to think under preasure?


When i started to play EVE i was a very different person. My english skills where more or less 0, and my confidence was not really high at all. A lot of self doubt and questioning.

To give you an idea.. In the start i had to rely on a danish player to help translate what people where saying, and i relied on google to help formulate what i wanted to say. EVE basically forced me to learn to speak and understand english, and all the odd sayings and slangs that many english speakers use on a regular basis.
Im still learning and use the forums a lot to help expand my english even further, even tho my grammar still needs a lot of work and i have to look up the accurate spelling quite often.

For becoming more confident. Suddenly having people come and ask me questions and actually (pretending to at least Lol ) listening to my answers and my opinions helped a lot. I went from not daring to talk in corp chat/ts/public channels/groups to be a recruiter and diplomat that can easily jump into random channels or conversations and dont feel as self conscious as i would have years ago.

Would my life as a whole have been different if i started to play when i was younger? I dont think so... I think i found EVE at the right time when i was..mature enough to be able to handle the challenges the game threw at me, and if i had been younger i would most likely have given up pretty fast.

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Stonkeep
Osmanli Empire
#19 - 2013-05-05 01:55:47 UTC
EvE is one of the few games that does not give advantage to younger players. Having better reflexes and such is not an advantage in Eve unlike many other games like FPS, RTS and some other MMOs.
Nitrogen Isotopes
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#20 - 2013-05-05 02:03:42 UTC
Large Collidable Object wrote:
sorry - DP


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