EVE General Discussion

I would want a pseudo WiS where I could play poker for ISK in game or that mini game they showed in an old demo.

Either way I would prefer they just told us if they have scrapped it already or it's just on hold with or w/o a team working on it.

Well if it was officially dead they would have said so. Unofficially.... It seems they haven't made up their mind

o well, posting to support WiS...

Tired conversation....


Everyone keeps talking about how they can walk around in every other game so, obviously, they should be able to do it here. It's ok for a game to be different, many would even call it a good thing. Play EVE for the space ships, let the devs develop game play that involves space ships. If you really want to walk around go play any one of the 100 MMOs that already support it.

No I didn't. And never presume you can speak for everyone or even a majority of people in EvE.

I came to this game because it is set in a Science Fiction universe. Which off course ( it being SF) happens to have spaceships flying around.
I stayed for the long time dream advocated by CCP that it eventually would evolve into a fully fledged SF game in every way possible. Including WIS. Not for the sole purpose of being able to walk around or 'play' with avatars, but because it is a part of the whole SF experience.

I for one would eventually want to see WIS further developed and implemented into EvE. And up until CCP states WIS is of the table, there is still hope.

"As soon as CCP can show worthwhile gameplay to come from expanding incarna"

This means never.
Because to maningful gameplay to appear, there should be not-so-meaningful first. Why can't you all understand this?
You can do yet-another FPS like that, the plan is simle in this case.
But they've tried that with EVE and almost failed with the game - too much stuff. But Hilmar saw that players themselves created the gameplay that even better than they've planned. So they let players to make their content. And EVE may have been closed if not that.
It's now they finally can afford adding some stuff like incursions, but back then there wasn't too much of the "meaningful gameplay". And there isn't too much content now - if you'll make a second TQ, there will be almost no content, there will be nothing to do. Because most of it is the community itself.

So WTF are you talking about guys? Meaningful gameplay... Hello, hello, this is EVE, not STO, and not Dust514. You're making it meaningful.

Except WiS wouldn't allow meaningful interaction or the chance for emergent gameplay. Playing poker and doing /dance in a bar isn't meaningful gameplay, or even engaging gameplay. It's second life in space.

Which is quite meaningful for some or even many people. I mean if it wasn't would Second Life be as popular as it is?

How about this little token of advice... Just because something isn't meaningful to you, doesn't mean it's not meaningful to others.


I'll add my experience to Eve.. I actually tried this game out back in 2008 but I just couldn't and still don't like the idea of not having a human avatar to play with through out most of my game experience. However, when I tried the game last year the first thing I've noticed was the captains quarters. That alone instantly drew me in to at least try the game a little more and even now I mostly do the economic side of game play (manufacturing, research, buying/selling) then I do flying in space. Only time I do is when I am mining and in some cases missions.

Which to add, I am doing a lot of mining right now

Ever watched Firefly? That's what I want out of EvE. Why should anyone, including CCP, care? They probably shouldn't. But I do want to jump out of my pod and walk into a bar with a pair of good ol' blasters in quick draw holsters. Or do a landing on a derelict station with a hunting carbine looking for a game that docked there a few minutes ago.

You see, if done right, this could give a new way of making big, rich and powerful people vulnerable to a few small enterprising bounty hunters. And I definitely wouldn't want that decoupled from EvE, as that would remove the whole point. I also want people to be forced to leave pod for some actions. Definitely not market or fitting, heavens forbid. But even the biggest meanest CEO should become exposed to a long sharp object up his flip side, if he decides to take a stroll on lower levels of the station to get some illegal goods like boosters in hisec. That, or he could send one of his cronies with an escort of dust gorillas...

I want to be sneaking into enemy hangars to place a tracker (or, perhaps, a time bomb?) on their ships. I want to be thrown out of a bar by a bunch of bodyguards for calling Chribba names... after too much space rum.

And I want a beer right now. That just doesn't mean someone has to get themselves involved with providing it. But here were a few ideas, most of them not even mine, that got mentioned quite a lot with regard to WiS.

Finally, what's bad if there is another aspect to EvE, equally cut-throat and exciting, and nobody forces you to take part in it any more than you need to? Yet it's not detached, it's not someone else on a PS3, and it is a new set of player skills that, while not exclusive, are certainly far from available and appealing to every present EvE hotshot. And that's a great thing! More diversity, more specializing, more forms and manners of gruesome death and utter bankruptcy. Bring it on, make Jita "feel" seedy!

That's why it's called an opinion.