Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Personally, I'd be willing to fork over the price of a t3 bs for one of these new domis or geddons.

Have you been living in a alternate universe which is a direct parallel to our own? ;)

Oh god forbit, 40mil!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pubbies lol

protip: it costs 32mil roughly~ to buy the guns on a talos. You could up it to 60mil and people would still buy 8 t2 neutron blasters and not stop flying taloses.

finally after years of playing this game i finally guessed right on a long-term patch speculation -- i suppose this one should have been easy to spot based on the tiericide that happend with barges, frigs, cruisers, battlecruisers.

but still, 1/x times successful is better than 0/x...

but screw you all, I WIN EVE!

These changes are bad. Who will fly a 250 million Scorpion? I can understand why you don't want to suddenly reduce the demand for minerals, and if you insist on having roughly the same price for all battleships, it's better guesstimating a sweet spot that will make the current tier 3 battleships cheaper while making the tier 1 battleships more expensive, all while keeping the mineral consumption roughly the same as now. Maybe fix the mineral consumption at the current mineral cost of the tier 2 battleships?

Fck your another ISK sink.
1,5 year ago a tier1 BS was ~40m on market. Today is ~100m.
And u want to change to 250-350m ??? 5x Capital rig prices, overcostly new pos systems,nerfed Tier3 BC-s to easy bomb, nerfed BCs for faction BC because can do better isk sink with same preferences , just check the faction Hurricane and Drake attributes and the old values. FU CCP
Easy to play the new players after this changes really ? When the PVE incomes nerfed with new NPC AI, the insurance is ridiculous low, just check if someone lose a 2.5 bills faction fitted t3 cruiser and get 20-30m ISK, this is megapathetic.
The 30 days plex manipulated by CCP too. etc, etc ,etc 2 years ago this game nothing just a big ISK sink with every new patches.
And every single days the incomes lower and lower than before.

Knowledge for those players who want to use tier3 BCs instead BS:

"Attack Battlecruisers

Attack Battlecruisers, formerly known as Tier-3 BC are receiving a small nerf. With the speed and agility of Cruisers and the ability to fit Battleship-sized weapons, they have become a serious threat to most other ship classes. CCP Rise has proposed changes to tweaks to scan resolution and signature radius on all four, agility tweaks on Naga and Oracle, and mass increase for Talos and Tornado. The goal is to make them slightly more vulnerable to probing, bombing, and being tackled than they currently are."

and this text is just another lying : "ome metrics around player wealth and income and found that EVE players are making money faster and faster"

Oh yes, thats why the incomes worsen than anytime. The last patch with new ai and missile nerf was just minus 14,5m every hour in 0.0 anomalies.
Oh and i almost forget this little gift from CCP which coming with new patch "adding warp disrupting pirates into all of the high level anomalies"

So, more danger and less ISK.

The attack battleship changes were making them looking agile and versatile enough that they could be used in smaller gangs, or in 'day to day' pvp. With the cost increase this really strongly discourages that.

Why spend so much on a battleship when there are so many cheaper and more mobile options, such as tier 3 battlecruisers? As far as smaller gangs go, 220 mil battleships will probably leave them in their old role of being used on station undocks or by rich players who don't care about throwing away isk. Added to that is the fact that battleships now are far more expensive than they were 18 months ago, with 40 mil domis rising to 90, geddons going from 50 to 100 and so on. It's no big deal to me, personally, but I can't see many other players rationally choosing an attack BS over other, cheaper options.

You're also faced with the problem of battleships being used less and less in fleet engagements, with a lot of alliances having replaced them with lokis, carriers and sniper BCs, amongst other doctrines. I also don't see the changes encouraging many switches away from rokhs or maelstroms, except for the occasional addition of a few neut geddons on a cap kill. Yes, you might see some raven fleets from rich, bored alliances, but for the most part there's no reason to be spending 220+ million on a slow to align cruise missile platform.

CCP desires money, what better way than to make the only viable option for people who DON'T have a moon goo monopoly to be forced to pay plex for anything bigger then a T3 BC?

Perhaps 10% - 20% more tank overall for BS?

Generaly i have no problems with these changes, but the performance gap between BS and BC is allready low... Some Battlecruiser reach allmost as much tank as some BS.... And the damage you gain by flying a battleship is not THAT high... Something has to make up for the lack of agility and speed.

Just make them a bit more tough. These are ships designed for direct face-to-face standoffs and should be able to take a beating (or more of it) ;)

My 15$ a month and training, says i have a right to fly what ever i choose.