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CCP - Whats up with the seeding?
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Matthew97
#1 - 2011-11-01 18:44:19 UTC
Hey again!!!

Whats up with the market seeding?!
When I was 1 jump away from Hek, every single ship was seeded, and I mean every single ship (except titans and supers).

Go down to the main system (6-C) and there are hardly any faction ships seeded at all?????
Was like this last mirror and thought it was intended but I can see that if your seeding everything in 1 place, why not in the main system?

-Matt
Jeroen Diode
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2011-11-01 18:48:20 UTC
Yeah seed everything :)
Endymi Typhirr
#3 - 2011-11-01 18:50:40 UTC
Agreed. Please put Vindicators back in 6-CZ49. Pirate

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Anikan Fernardo
Shedload of Zeds
#4 - 2011-11-02 04:20:06 UTC
Endymi Typhirr wrote:
Agreed. Please put Vindicators back in 6-CZ49. Pirate


Seconded on Vindicators being available in/near the main testing system. I spent the better part of an hour looking for a station seeded with them. With the Blaster changes coming soon I hope they can remedy this situation.
Bleys Breighter
DemSal Corporation
#5 - 2011-11-02 06:20:56 UTC
+1 on seeding faction ships. I find it wrong I can buy seeded AT prizes while standard faction ships can not be had.
Matuk Grymwal
Collapsed Out
Pandemic Legion
#6 - 2011-11-02 11:03:26 UTC
I'm more interested in testing some of the new t2 stuff. No t2 gang links, siege, triage mods, etc are seeded yet.
Xynthiar
OnlyFleets.
#7 - 2011-11-02 11:08:26 UTC
Last time I heard, the seeding script was still bugged.
Matthew97
#8 - 2011-11-02 13:04:57 UTC
Matuk Grymwal wrote:
I'm more interested in testing some of the new t2 stuff. No t2 gang links, siege, triage mods, etc are seeded yet.


This is what were trying to get sorted, to make everything seeded that should be :)

Xynthiar wrote:
Last time I heard, the seeding script was still bugged.


The last mirror I was told that it was "working as intended" but its clear that its not as you've said.
With something so vital to testing, I would hope they would fix it soon as there are some ships etc that could of been affected without anyone noticing as they haven't been seeded where most of the main testing occurs.
Wrath22
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#9 - 2011-11-02 13:34:02 UTC
I also agree everything should be seeded in main testing system
Ganthrithor
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#10 - 2011-11-02 19:46:12 UTC
Do it.
Missile War
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#11 - 2011-11-02 20:12:07 UTC
and again people just want to test their failfits for use on TQ(90% atleast,some actually do have good intensions). while they have no intentions on trying to find bugs.
Matthew97
#12 - 2011-11-02 20:59:12 UTC
Missile War wrote:
and again people just want to test their failfits for use on TQ(90% atleast,some actually do have good intensions). while they have no intentions on trying to find bugs.


Please learn to read before posting.

I am not responsible for what others want to do, i am simply opening this to hopefully get the seeding scripts fixed so we can TEST all ships. Some factions aren't seeded and maybe have bugged out or somethings gone wrong with effects but as they are not seeded we cannot TEST them.

-Matt
Matthew97
#13 - 2011-11-02 21:05:56 UTC
double post
Ganthrithor
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#14 - 2011-11-02 22:20:09 UTC
Matthew97 wrote:
Missile War wrote:
and again people just want to test their failfits for use on TQ(90% atleast,some actually do have good intensions). while they have no intentions on trying to find bugs.


Please learn to read before posting.

I am not responsible for what others want to do, i am simply opening this to hopefully get the seeding scripts fixed so we can TEST all ships. Some factions aren't seeded and maybe have bugged out or somethings gone wrong with effects but as they are not seeded we cannot TEST them.

-Matt


He doesn't believe in seeding faction ships because he can't afford to fly them on TQ and so has no need to test them.
Missile War
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#15 - 2011-11-03 00:04:16 UTC
Ganthrithor wrote:
Matthew97 wrote:
Missile War wrote:
and again people just want to test their failfits for use on TQ(90% atleast,some actually do have good intensions). while they have no intentions on trying to find bugs.


Please learn to read before posting.

I am not responsible for what others want to do, i am simply opening this to hopefully get the seeding scripts fixed so we can TEST all ships. Some factions aren't seeded and maybe have bugged out or somethings gone wrong with effects but as they are not seeded we cannot TEST them.

-Matt


He doesn't believe in seeding faction ships because he can't afford to fly them on TQ and so has no need to test them.



LMAO, i don't care about what ships are on market, i fly whatever is on the market. also. and what i can do on TQ or not is totally off-topic here...

and like i said, 90% of the people that ask for all ships seeded just want to test their failfits. maybe your the 10%, maybe your not. anyway, i don't think they should get seeded unless there was a change to them. otherwise they could just as good seed EVERY ship even titans and then you get the same blobs you had few mirrors ago when all faction ships were seeded and then no testing is happening.
Comodore John
4S Corporation
The Initiative.
#16 - 2011-11-03 03:19:29 UTC
@ OP: those ships were leftover on market from mirror, not seeded.

As for seeding every ship on market, the current faction ships that are seeded are a result of a bug within th seeding script, CCP doesn't like to seed faction stuff because people tend to only use the best faction ships so regular ships and T2 don't get tested. If you want to test a certain ship with a certain set up: buy it on TQ or rush to Jita when a new mirror is applied and hope you can whore some contracts.
Matthew97
#17 - 2011-11-03 16:12:01 UTC
Comodore John wrote:
@ OP: those ships were leftover on market from mirror, not seeded.

As for seeding every ship on market, the current faction ships that are seeded are a result of a bug within th seeding script, CCP doesn't like to seed faction stuff because people tend to only use the best faction ships so regular ships and T2 don't get tested. If you want to test a certain ship with a certain set up: buy it on TQ or rush to Jita when a new mirror is applied and hope you can ***** some contracts.


I understand that most of the ones in highsec are leftovers but When I spoke to a few ISD's and 1 CCP member that they are all actually supposed seeded. We can see that some faction ships are seeded correctly, but others aren't as per the images below:

Seeded: http://oi41.tinypic.com/28su8hv.jpg


Not Seeded: http://oi40.tinypic.com/vifk2x.jpg


Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#18 - 2011-11-05 23:38:03 UTC
Missile War wrote:
and again people just want to test their failfits for use on TQ(90% atleast,some actually do have good intensions). while they have no intentions on trying to find bugs.


CCP: "We want feedback on the Hybrid fixes"
Players: "We would like the ships seeded to test this (Vindicator)"
You: "OMG Y U NO TEST RITE????"

The test server isn't just there to test hardware issues.

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,

Matthew97
#19 - 2011-11-11 10:32:52 UTC
Bump for attention + support