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Kill rights vs. -10.0 high sec suiciders = Nonsense

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E-2C Hawkeye
HOW to PEG SAFETY
#61 - 2013-05-03 19:43:26 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:



Even when spelled out you will choose to see only that which you want to see. Perhaps first start by learning the definition of the word exploit. It’s not my place or desire to educate you batltec. Regardless of the specifics you will choose not to see or acknowledge anything that goes against your specific play style just as others like yourself…(forum trolls) You know the ones that you and your buddies troll until the topic you do not agree with until it becomes locked.

1. ex•ploit
/ikˈsploit/
Verb
Make full use of and derive benefit from



The OP brought up a valid concern effecting game play. As is the mechanic of -10 sec status does not have any negative repercussions for just refitting and undocking over and over. I am sure you feel this fine. Others feel there needs to be some sort of penalty. So those that do this are exploiting the current game mechanics.

If you want to be a pirate then be one but those choices should come at a far greater cost then you currently have.


Great you gave me the definition of the word.

Now how about telling what we are exploiting exactly? Given that exploiting exploits in game is a bannable offence I have a vested interest in knowing what it is I am exploiting.

As for the lack of punishment. How exactly is being open to attack from everyone, attacked by faction police on site, open to attack by station and gate guns, showing up as flashy red in bot local and on everyones overview as well as getting our ship blown out from under us and camped by concord for15 minutes as well as generating a killright on our head redeemable by anyone at any time not a punishment?


Called it in my very first sentence.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#62 - 2013-05-03 19:47:32 UTC
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:


Called it in my very first sentence.



I see no explanation of the exploit in any of your sentences.

Shall I take your refusal to post what the exploit is as an admission that there is, infact, no exploit and that you simply lied?
Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#63 - 2013-05-03 20:14:23 UTC
Gankers facing any sort of risk is the running joke of eve online.

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Captain Tardbar
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#64 - 2013-05-03 20:18:02 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Shall I take your refusal to post what the exploit is as an admission that there is, infact, no exploit and that you simply lied?


If I said there was a 50% chance of me lying would it help the situation?

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#65 - 2013-05-03 20:23:59 UTC
Captain Tardbar wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Shall I take your refusal to post what the exploit is as an admission that there is, infact, no exploit and that you simply lied?


If I said there was a 50% chance of me lying would it help the situation?


Lets flip a coin on this.
WTFAMILOOKINGAT
Horizon Research Group
#66 - 2013-05-03 20:33:23 UTC
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:



Even when spelled out you will choose to see only that which you want to see. Perhaps first start by learning the definition of the word exploit. It’s not my place or desire to educate you batltec. Regardless of the specifics you will choose not to see or acknowledge anything that goes against your specific play style just as others like yourself…(forum trolls) You know the ones that you and your buddies troll until the topic you do not agree with until it becomes locked.

1. ex•ploit
/ikˈsploit/
Verb
Make full use of and derive benefit from



The OP brought up a valid concern effecting game play. As is the mechanic of -10 sec status does not have any negative repercussions for just refitting and undocking over and over. I am sure you feel this fine. Others feel there needs to be some sort of penalty. So those that do this are exploiting the current game mechanics.

If you want to be a pirate then be one but those choices should come at a far greater cost then you currently have.


Great you gave me the definition of the word.

Now how about telling what we are exploiting exactly? Given that exploiting exploits in game is a bannable offence I have a vested interest in knowing what it is I am exploiting.

As for the lack of punishment. How exactly is being open to attack from everyone, attacked by faction police on site, open to attack by station and gate guns, showing up as flashy red in bot local and on everyones overview as well as getting our ship blown out from under us and camped by concord for15 minutes as well as generating a killright on our head redeemable by anyone at any time not a punishment?


Called it in my very first sentence.



Nice way to not have to support your argument I suppose....
ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#67 - 2013-05-03 22:20:31 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
Topic cleaned of some of topic and trolling posts.
And moved to Features & Ideas Discussion as the OP is effectively proposing game mechanic changes.

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Felsusguy
Panopticon Engineering
#68 - 2013-05-03 22:47:31 UTC
It would be interesting if CONCORD responded faster to crimes the lower your security status is, but anything more is gamebreaking (perhaps even faster response times is).

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Mag's
Azn Empire
#69 - 2013-05-04 15:41:02 UTC
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:



Even when spelled out you will choose to see only that which you want to see. Perhaps first start by learning the definition of the word exploit. It’s not my place or desire to educate you batltec. Regardless of the specifics you will choose not to see or acknowledge anything that goes against your specific play style just as others like yourself…(forum trolls) You know the ones that you and your buddies troll until the topic you do not agree with until it becomes locked.

1. ex•ploit
/ikˈsploit/
Verb
Make full use of and derive benefit from



The OP brought up a valid concern effecting game play. As is the mechanic of -10 sec status does not have any negative repercussions for just refitting and undocking over and over. I am sure you feel this fine. Others feel there needs to be some sort of penalty. So those that do this are exploiting the current game mechanics.

If you want to be a pirate then be one but those choices should come at a far greater cost then you currently have.


Great you gave me the definition of the word.

Now how about telling what we are exploiting exactly? Given that exploiting exploits in game is a bannable offence I have a vested interest in knowing what it is I am exploiting.

As for the lack of punishment. How exactly is being open to attack from everyone, attacked by faction police on site, open to attack by station and gate guns, showing up as flashy red in bot local and on everyones overview as well as getting our ship blown out from under us and camped by concord for15 minutes as well as generating a killright on our head redeemable by anyone at any time not a punishment?


Called it in my very first sentence.

But you didn't. You merely keep repeating that there is some sort of exploit. So far, I've not seen one.
Being as -5 and below players can be shot anywhere any time, the OP is somewhat lacking an argument.

As far as the definition of the word exploit is concerned: The only one that matters in this regard, is the one that CCP assigns to it. Blink

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Naomi Knight
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#70 - 2013-05-04 16:24:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Naomi Knight
Lady Areola Fappington wrote:
The Devs stated long ago that they will never lock anyone out of any section of space. This includes use of the immortal unbeatable space police.

I recommend one dose of HTFU every 8 hours, repeat as needed.


Also, show us on the doll where the ganker touched you.

oh god

devs can be wrong , actually they are doing many stupid things , like this one
btw you wouldnt be locked out just killed on site
Naomi Knight
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#71 - 2013-05-04 16:29:19 UTC
Riot Girl wrote:
scarify ardonn wrote:
without punishment.

Getting their ship blown up isn't punishment?

yup it isnt
Mag's
Azn Empire
#72 - 2013-05-04 17:59:09 UTC
Naomi Knight wrote:
Lady Areola Fappington wrote:
The Devs stated long ago that they will never lock anyone out of any section of space. This includes use of the immortal unbeatable space police.

I recommend one dose of HTFU every 8 hours, repeat as needed.


Also, show us on the doll where the ganker touched you.

oh god

devs can be wrong , actually they are doing many stupid things , like this one
btw you wouldnt be locked out just killed on site
Anyone -5 and below can already be killed on site. But this means that players have to do the killing. Anyone would think this is an MMO. Roll

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Yolo
Unknown Nation
#73 - 2013-05-04 23:54:42 UTC
When CONCORD is out for you, docking should be disabled.
This would vastly limit the movement and operation of low-sec pilots and have the much more engaged in clearing their name so to speak.

- since 2003, bitches
Mag's
Azn Empire
#74 - 2013-05-05 01:37:51 UTC
Yolo wrote:
When CONCORD is out for you, docking should be disabled.
This would vastly limit the movement and operation of low-sec pilots and have the much more engaged in clearing their name so to speak.
As luck would have it, docking is already disabled when Concord is 'out for you'. It's also a bannable offence to avoid Concord, when they are 'out for you'.

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Devil Dodger
Black-Watch Corporation
Malicious Mineral Hounds
#75 - 2013-05-05 06:57:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Devil Dodger
I wonder which one of the egg poachers got the OP..CBA to check the killboards.

As a permanent -10.0 highsec resident I can say dealing with faction police and the occasional higsec instalock camper is punishment enough. You definitely do not operate with impunity as you can be killed any time; provided the player is up to the task.

EDIT: Also higsec podding is very hard on the wallet and suicide thrashers cost 2.6 million isk to fit. Donations appreciated. Taint your character forever :D

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