EVE General Discussion

Most people like the idea of flying in a fleet of ships all of the same race. Its neat to see and the tactics are interesting to try and implement. In CVA we set up all Amarr fleets on occasion, and I have to say it is one of the most exhilarating and awesom experiences that I have had in Eve. They look great together, and they function well; the Gaurdians creating a nasty tank and cap battery for the power hungry Abaddons. I think any purely racial fleet would feel the same way.

So why do we almost never see pure racial fleets? And should the game perhaps encourage them?

I think that yes, the game should encourage them. It is a better gaming experience because it highlights the back story, and aids in immersion. Also because the individual racial fleets make group roles more clear and easier for new players to understand and be incorporated into.

How could these fleets be encouraged? Just by giving bonuses to pure fleets; fleet boosters have a greater effect, larger wing and squad sizes, maybe specialized links that only affect a pure fleet, and racially specific command skills.

These bonuses could easily be tailored to equalize the different fleets vs one another and to ensure that pure fleets are not the only option.

Command links are up for a rework and this could be a part of that change.

I kind of expect some horrification about this idea from min/maxers and guys who like to have the whole range of ships at their disposal, but please keep in mind that these types of fleets can be balanced Vs all inclusive fleets and that the bonuses would actually create more options for fleet compostions, not less,

Have you ever flown in an all Amarr fleet or an all Caldari fleet? Was the experience different in any way from a standard fleet? Would you like to see more of those kinds of fleet ops?

Interesting post. Maybe racial command links for racial battlecruisers on top of standard links could be a way forward. Specialized racial fleets sacrificing adaptability of a multirace fleet for specialization.

Haven't read the whole post yet, but hell yes would I love to see some bonus for an all racial fleet. Lets have fleets like those in the trailers that made us come here in the first place!

Edit: finished reading, and I think agree with have command ships give larger bonuses to ships of their same race. Doesn't mean they can't be used to bonus other racial hulls, but have them give bigger bonuses to hulls of the same race.

An all Caldari fleet? You mean a drake fleet?

Amarr don't need any fleet love. I say that as a first and mostly Amarr ship pilot. I've seen Amarr fleets get tooled by Mini fleets in my days in CVA but it was less to do with them and more to do with us not augmenting all our bonuses. If we had thought to add some Neuts to our armada, we would have clubbed them.

I'd love to fly full Amarr fleets more but most pilots don't like the siege and bait style fleet structure Amarr employ. Minmatar always made better roaming fleets, why they are popular. Goonies are Caldari first. They would be so much more deadly in Amarr groups if they could get their people to coordinate but Goonies have even said, it's like herding cats, getting Goons on a page.

A more direct suggestion to the OP? Make it happen. Amarr is the race to favor if you want racial uniformity. Keep in mind, Amarr is allied to Caldari so a Caldari Compliment isn't outside the RP value.

How about some Faction Warfare Link modules that only give its bonus to ships of the Faction, the Link module belong to.

lol, translation: drake "i win" fleets feel like cheating

Wait...is this a 'Buff the Blob' thread?!??!??!

My mind is blown.

I am absolutely with everyone who is sick of monoculture blob fleets. And I have to say the most successful fleets that I have been in involve a solid combined arms strategy.

The minimum combo is fast tackle/DPS/logi. But from that base you can build a solid fleet using many different components; damps fit in well with logi or EWAR, which fits in almost anywhere. Having a wing of bombers on standby is a great option, likewise incorporating a drone ship or two.

Once DPS hits the level of instablap, or even 10 second blap, it seems to me that a fleet with better support will get more kills and be more survivable. What is the perfect ratio of DPS to support? idk 2/3rds DPS or so sounds right.

And racial doctrines would be even more reliant on support ships because they all have known weaknesses that the non-DPS ships are there to make up for. Which in fact may be the best reason to encourage these kinds of fleets.

I completely support the OP's suggestion. I love the idea of all-golden Amarrian fleets sweeping across the starscapes.