Crime & Punishment

Is CCP really providing for all play-styles? Will the new security status system make life hard for those who hunt the pirates, now that security status will be something easily removed by isk?

Is there enough even with bounties, for someone who knows how to fight, but wants to fight the endless stream of psychos in space?

Probably because you have alts for hauling like every pirate that isn't ********.

It is going to weird though....going to gate camps where everyone has yellow sec standings instead of flashy red. I'm not sure it's the best solution out there. However making low-sec ratting worth while for a change has it's perks i guess.

I doubt things are going to change as much as you think. Shortly after the expansion you will probably see some -10 pirates repairing their sec so they can spend an evening smartbombing in Jita for ***** and giggles, and you will probably see a few highseccers trying out going -10, now that they know they can quickly get it back. I don't think it will take long, though, before things stabilize. I doubt you are going to see many people routinely destroying then repairing their sec, because there wouldn't be much point.

Biggest changes will be to whether people podkill in lowsec or not (when they get an opportunity). Not sure how that will actually play out - some that presently think 'ah, what the heck, I'm -6.0, may as well pod this guy' will now think 'I'm -6.0, better not waste three tags podding this guy'.

Others will think 'I'm -4.4, but I'll pop this pod because I can easily fix up the sec to get back into high'.

As we don't know the spawn rate for the new rats, it's hard to tell. For example, if they are in every belt, every time rats spawn, sec repair could be under 1 million isk, rendering sec status a useless trait. However, the rats could be as rare as officer spawns, leading to a billion isk to raise your sec to -4 even, making it a useless feature.

It could also be an odd mix. As I recall, you need specific tags to reach certain numbers. For example, going -10 to -8 took tag x, -8 to -5 is tag y, -5 to -2 is tag z. If tag x and y are rare, but z common, you may see more flashy yellows and people watching their sec status not to dip too low into the rare tag range.

Also, tags have to be turned in to a low sec concord station. You could see such stations camped beyond all belief by pirates or who knows. Imagine if one of the stations was in Rancer.

The reality is, we know there will tags for secs. Until we know spawn rates we just can't tell if this will be balanced, broken from inception, or renders sec status as useless.

This question doesn't really even make sense.

But the answer is yes. This will cater to MORE play-syles than the current system.

1. It caters to the hardcore pirate playstyle. They will ignore the tags because they have no need to rise from -10. And this gives them something to do for isk when waiting for targets (roam belts)
2. It caters to the occasional pirate/ganker. They now can roam for a period of time, racking up negative sec and then repair it at the end.
3. It caters to the carebear looking for some additional thrill. Now there is a better reason to take a trip to lowsec and rat through the belts, hopefully picking up some juicy tags while evading nasty piwates.

And I may be wrong, but I'm gonna guess that these tags aren't gonna be all that cheap. I would suspect we will find that trying to get from -10 to 0 will get pretty expensive.

Except that a lot of suicide gankers dont care about sec status because they use high sec alts for target hunting and just bring in the pirate for the final kill.

Personally i welcome any change that gives more of a chance for people who will actually fight to be in lowsec.

Billions :dr evil: you say? So what you're really trying to say is that you're pretty mad over this and you want it so that people who want to repair their sec this way are essentially priced out of the market?

Next up: witnessing you complain that Eve favors older players.

Don't do the crime if you cant pay the fine? Gankers destroy and loot billions of isk a week from Hi sec ganks. This will just be another way to make that process easier for them to participate in. Yes it should have and extremely high cost associated with it especially since you now need to take no risk to improve status. People who think the lonely low sec pilot will have a chance at these tags are foolish. Big alliances will be streaming to these belts to fight for these tags and billions of ISK involved in the process.

Agreed. I doubt this method will be used as frequently as you might think. I seriously doubt I will feel motivated to pay or rat my sec up anytime soon. The coming changes should pull more targets to low-sec, so I don't see any reason not to just sit back and let them come.