Wormholes

So me and a few friends are looking to do some WH living. Goal is to have fun but we have about 5 accounts that need plex. Can a c2 / c3 sustain plexing those accounts? Looking at a c2 with hs / c3 statics.
Looking to support a POS also along with the accounts. Will run PI and mining with one toon and do sleepers with 2-4 pilots.

Currently we run incursions and yes its more then enough money to plex... It is boring now and we would love to be able to live in a WH. Thinking the extra logistics of WH living would make the game more fun.
Have to factor in ship losses as well, as I am fully sure that they will happen.

But it is very important we can plex without plex we have no accounts to play.
There are options to join other corps I know. But would like to know if it is doable by our selves
A HS static would make things more easy to get out and run some incursions still but my goal is to start doing them less then I do now.

Also what minimum ships and required skills are needed?
the combat pilots are 20 - 30m pilots
I have read a lot of forums and post and guides but can never seem to pin down a solid estimate on how much I can expect to make per month.

Thanks any help would be great.

Finding a c2 hs/c3 static unoccupied is fairly difficult, but it can definitely sustain what you need.

Considering you make a bare minimum of 28 million ISK per c3 site, if you run 5-10 sites per roll in your static you can easily sustain your accounts with plex. 28 mil may be the lower limit, but I have experienced numbers over 100mil and on average around 35-45 mil per site, so if you roll your static a couple times and run all the sites in each hole, you could have all your accounts and your tower paid for within a week without having to be running sites 8 hours a day. The isk per month is all about how much time you put into milking your wormhole.

As far as skills go, a drake can deal with any c3 anom by itself, with just a t2 tank (really damn slow dont solo c3's in a drake). A group of drakes bring site time down. RR tengus always work, although a bit overkill. I have never run RR domi's but I have heard good things. I've also heard of some other wack setups, play around and you might find something really efficient for your group to run.

If you have 4 people you can easily blitz through sites in under 10 minutes if you are getting started, however if you are experienced and efficient I'd bet you could easily run sites in under 5 minutes with 4 RR domi's. That's over 300mil an hour while your group is running sites if your really unlucky, more probably like 400-500mil an hour.

If you live there long enough you will become very efficient at scouting properly ( d-scan wont be enough if you want to survive while running anoms ), and rolling your statics.

Good luck with your wormhole excursion, oh yeah and don't use small towers.

If your self-tanking your ships, no logistics, it doesnt matter what sort of composition you bring. Just make sure your ships can tank about 750 omni DPS and are pretty cap stable (if its not a passive drake, it will need some extra stability to deal with the moderate neuting. A loki can do c3 sites if I'm not mistake, but check its EFT tank first wouldn't want to die horribly. Nighthawks also work very well for c3 sites, and every tech 3 can run c3 anoms except the proteus (it can but it sucks).

I wouldn't bother with the navy drakes as they wont offer much over the current drake for PVE and are going to be more expensive, you will also probably find that your drakes will be overtanked and you can easily use a mid slot for a target painter, which helps a good amount with tengus/drakes hitting sleeper cruisers, and a hell of a lot with frigates. 2-3 target painters can massively increase your applied dps against those two types of ships.

Also, good luck finding a suitable hole. Keep an eye on the eve market forums, lots of people sell wormholes they find/are moving out of there prices are quite reasonable generally for the amount of isk you can make.

Good advice stated above, i agree C3 over a C2, and easily soloable with T3 cruisers. Though with 5 accounts, also possible with a small BC fleet.

PI can also prove extremely profitable, especcially if you can bag a hole with planets that offer most material types. You'd obviously need your mains and alts trained on all accounts to maximise this, but you could make silly passive isk via PI.

The only other issue is how long you plan to stay in the hole when you finally find one that isn't already claimed. If you plan to stay for a long time, then a large, well defended tower is a must!

After much eye rolling while reading the replies above...

First, forget c2. C2 sites pay ****. 2.5b is a lot of sites a month. Probably in the range of 100 sites a month. Good luck with that not getting old fast.

Secondly, logistics aren't fun. Especially after the first few times. GL with that.

Tertiary, anything that statics into a c3 could be good but C2/HS/C3 wh's I have seen tend to have multiple corps in them with caps. If you do manage to find one, your going to get invaded. Those and C3/HS are easily the most invaded wh's.

Try find a C4/C3 if you all like to play solo and sometimes in groups. If you tend to play exclusively in groups, aim for C4+. A fleet of RR tengus can make insane isk. Certainly enough to plex.

Yeah thank you I have a option to move into a C2 with a Static HS and static C4 is they are telling the truth.
I am still exploring several options as to what ships I / we will be flying
Could a RR nighthawk work? Was thinking with the tank I could handle the c4s
Would be rr tengu loki and night hawk at the very least.
And maybe a lvl 5 navy drake.

You don't need to live in a WH to farm the sites.

The vast majority of C2's and C3's exit into K-space. They're plentiful and easy to find. A quick check of who lives in the WH will give you an indication of their normal time zone and many C3's are inhabited by small corps so it's feasible to put all of their characters on your watch list to see when they log on.

Having a good prober and a couple of scout alts will be necessary to make sure you find other entrances and watch them so you don't get ambushed but you'd have to do that if you lived in one too. If you're not willing/able to scout the exits then on the long term you'll probably spend all the isk you made buying new ratting ships.

I think the only reason to want to actually LIVE in a C2 or C3 is of you need a POS for invention or you want to do PI. If you just want to run sites then find a constellation somewhere that has frequent exits and just probe them down.

T-

Well... on the one hand, if you live in WH's for very long then you'll realize that it isn't entirely random.

I don't have the list handy but I recall seeing a list of which areas WH's exited into so if you dig around a bit and find that list then you'll probably be able to calculate a general "density' of exits in any given area. At least it gives you a starting point for where you want to be looking.

For example if you live in Aridia, even for the size of it, you probably only need to scan 2 or 3 systems to find a WH on any given day. So sure, the exact WH you find will be random, although most of them will be C3's, and there won't be exits in the same systems every single day, but if you know where you've found them before and you scan the same constellation the next day then I'm going to put my money on you finding an exit *somewhere* in that constellation on *most* days.

T-

p.s. even if I'm wrong and it is totally random then it's still not going to take long to find a C3 entrance, especailly if you look in low-sec. There are 695 low sec systems in EVE and 540 low-sec statics of which nearly 300 originate from C3's. So on average, even on a bad day you'll statistically find a WH in 78% of low-sec systems and you'll find a C3 entrance in at least every 3rd system on average.

T-

I have always thought that wh and K-system constellations are totally separate.

If you have high sec static in your WH, it can open to any HS system in EVE.

Some really great info here. We are going to try c2 to get our feet wet. This will still allow for easy access to hiisec incursion running. We have have some time training some needed skills to optimize wh life. If anyone has some loki tengu drake nighthawk loaf outs that would be great. Rr fits and solo fits thanks