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Proposal for CSM Chairman, Secretary.

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Alekseyev Karrde
Noir.
Shadow Cartel
#121 - 2013-05-02 05:54:23 UTC
Issler Dainze wrote:
I propose I be be made Maximum CSM for Life!! I'll sort out the new folks, see who looks to be the most mining friendly and bring in folks like Alex and Hans as needed to get this whole CSM working like it needs to be!

I'll ask CCP to have a Gulfstream biz jet on call for us so we cool kids can go to Iceland as we see fit to school CCP when they step out and when we aren't delivering Eve and Dust awesome we'll use the jet to make sure we all have enough Nonnis to understand how to evolve Eve and Dust.

Seriously, let CSM 8 decide how be to be awesome on their own!! That is my recommendation (OK, I would prefer CSM for life and a biz jet but I'm happy with CSM 8 blowing me away with awesome!)

Let the new fols find their way, you will be very happy with them I bet if you do!!

Issler

(CCP please get consider a biz jet for CSM 7 Nonnis trips!!! We will love you for life!!)

Supporting election reform was worth it to fly to the Blue Lagoon in a helicopter. Ballinnnnnn!

Alek the Kidnapper, Hero of the CSM
dark heartt
#122 - 2013-05-02 07:06:24 UTC
Alekseyev Karrde wrote:
Issler Dainze wrote:
I propose I be be made Maximum CSM for Life!! I'll sort out the new folks, see who looks to be the most mining friendly and bring in folks like Alex and Hans as needed to get this whole CSM working like it needs to be!

I'll ask CCP to have a Gulfstream biz jet on call for us so we cool kids can go to Iceland as we see fit to school CCP when they step out and when we aren't delivering Eve and Dust awesome we'll use the jet to make sure we all have enough Nonnis to understand how to evolve Eve and Dust.

Seriously, let CSM 8 decide how be to be awesome on their own!! That is my recommendation (OK, I would prefer CSM for life and a biz jet but I'm happy with CSM 8 blowing me away with awesome!)

Let the new fols find their way, you will be very happy with them I bet if you do!!

Issler

(CCP please get consider a biz jet for CSM 7 Nonnis trips!!! We will love you for life!!)

Supporting election reform was worth it to fly to the Blue Lagoon in a helicopter. Ballinnnnnn!


You sold out? Let me just batphone frying doom into this. I'm sure he'll have something disparaging and biased to say.

http://tetrisisunrealistic.blogspot.com.au/
Frying Doom
#123 - 2013-05-02 09:10:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Frying Doom
dark heartt wrote:
Alekseyev Karrde wrote:
Issler Dainze wrote:
I propose I be be made Maximum CSM for Life!! I'll sort out the new folks, see who looks to be the most mining friendly and bring in folks like Alex and Hans as needed to get this whole CSM working like it needs to be!

I'll ask CCP to have a Gulfstream biz jet on call for us so we cool kids can go to Iceland as we see fit to school CCP when they step out and when we aren't delivering Eve and Dust awesome we'll use the jet to make sure we all have enough Nonnis to understand how to evolve Eve and Dust.

Seriously, let CSM 8 decide how be to be awesome on their own!! That is my recommendation (OK, I would prefer CSM for life and a biz jet but I'm happy with CSM 8 blowing me away with awesome!)

Let the new fols find their way, you will be very happy with them I bet if you do!!

Issler

(CCP please get consider a biz jet for CSM 7 Nonnis trips!!! We will love you for life!!)

Supporting election reform was worth it to fly to the Blue Lagoon in a helicopter. Ballinnnnnn!


You sold out? Let me just batphone frying doom into this. I'm sure he'll have something disparaging and biased to say.

The CSM deserve the best.

So a Gulfstream, all I can say is not good enough.
A Helicopter flight to the blue lagoon, no way near sufficient.

We expect the best, so CCP should give the best, Matchbox aircraft are the way to go.

Especially after the wonderful voting reform Evil

Oh and I already knew he was one of the 3 that supported the STV system. They claim it was a majority decision but only 3 people actually owned up to supporting it, and they wont actually say who else did, frankly it smells like a pile of **** to me.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
mynnna
State War Academy
Caldari State
#124 - 2013-05-02 19:17:49 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
Oh and I already knew he was one of the 3 that supported the STV system. They claim it was a majority decision but only 3 people actually owned up to supporting it, and they wont actually say who else did, frankly it smells like a pile of **** to me.


I was struggling to create an analogy to express this idea, but it was too odd and convoluted, so I'll drop it and say it straight: The fact that only a handful of CSM7 members deigned to respond to your demands for information is not proof of a CCP conspiracy to go against the wishes of the CSM7, or a conspiracy by those CSM7 members to railroad the change through over the opposition of the rest of the CSM7 and/or CCP, or whatever you think it is. It is, in fact, proof of nothing but your absolute irrelevance, of the complete and total lack of power you have.

Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal
Varius Xeral
Doomheim
#125 - 2013-05-02 19:39:49 UTC
:grainybasketballvideo:

Official Representative of The Nullsec Zealot Cabal
mynnna
State War Academy
Caldari State
#126 - 2013-05-02 19:47:09 UTC  |  Edited by: mynnna
And before you ask and wonder why I seem so happy to respond to you, from which one could draw the conclusion that you do have "power" over me: It's because I take great pleasure in egging you on and drawing your insanity out for more and more people to see. Bear

Now, to some people, I would have just given up the game. They'd have realized that quite a lot of people regard them as nuts, and perhaps take a step back, moderate their posting, maybe even stop posting entirely.

But not you. Oh, no. You are so convinced of your genius, so convinced of your very rightness that you'll just keep on posting, keep on generating entertainment for the rest of us. I'm not sure if you're American or not, but for the Americans out there, it's very much akin to Glenn Beck and all the advertisers he lost in the wake of... well, we'll avoid the name for it because it's rather inappropriate, but suffice it to say the tl;dr for anyone unaware he's a radio show host who said a lot of rather inappropriate things on air about a woman named Sandra Fluke, and so lost a lot of ad deals as a result. Did the loss of the hundreds of thousands, even millions of dollars worth of ad deals over his words and actions stop him? Nope, he just kept going right on, kept saying insane things.

Now to the very great shame of the US, this man still wields an absurd amount of power, in his own way, which is rather more than you can say. But the point I'm getting at is that some people just can't help themselves. You are one of them.

Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal
None ofthe Above
#127 - 2013-05-02 20:16:01 UTC
mynnna wrote:
And before you ask and wonder why I seem so happy to respond to you, from which one could draw the conclusion that you do have "power" over me: It's because I take great pleasure in egging you on and drawing your insanity out for more and more people to see. Bear

Now, to some people, I would have just given up the game. They'd have realized that quite a lot of people regard them as nuts, and perhaps take a step back, moderate their posting, maybe even stop posting entirely.

But not you. Oh, no. You are so convinced of your genius, so convinced of your very rightness that you'll just keep on posting, keep on generating entertainment for the rest of us. I'm not sure if you're American or not, but for the Americans out there, it's very much akin to Glenn Beck and all the advertisers he lost in the wake of... well, we'll avoid the name for it because it's rather inappropriate, but suffice it to say the tl;dr for anyone unaware he's a radio show host who said a lot of rather inappropriate things on air about a woman named Sandra Fluke, and so lost a lot of ad deals as a result. Did the loss of the hundreds of thousands, even millions of dollars worth of ad deals over his words and actions stop him? Nope, he just kept going right on, kept saying insane things.

Now to the very great shame of the US, this man still wields an absurd amount of power, in his own way, which is rather more than you can say. But the point I'm getting at is that some people just can't help themselves. You are one of them.


Ah but according to Alekseyev Karrde, Poe is Glen Beck and Frying is Orly Taitz:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2960269#post2960269

Not sure what that make me... I guess I'll just have to settle for being None ofthe Above.

The only end-game content in EVE Online is the crap that makes you rage quit.
mynnna
State War Academy
Caldari State
#128 - 2013-05-02 20:21:43 UTC
Look it's an analogy okay. I wasn't saying he was literally Glenn Beck. Blink

You're too sane and well spoken to be any right-wing pundit, even if I disagree with you on occasion. Maybe we'll pretend you're Rachel Maddow or something instead.

Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal
None ofthe Above
#129 - 2013-05-02 20:42:13 UTC
mynnna wrote:
Look it's an analogy okay. I wasn't saying he was literally Glenn Beck. Blink

You're too sane and well spoken to be any right-wing pundit, even if I disagree with you on occasion. Maybe we'll pretend you're Rachel Maddow or something instead.


Dawww, make me blush. A compliment? Wait... there's a goon sneaking up behind me isn't there? What?

The only end-game content in EVE Online is the crap that makes you rage quit.
Alphea Abbra
Project Promethion
#130 - 2013-05-02 22:44:26 UTC
None ofthe Above wrote:
mynnna wrote:
Look it's an analogy okay. I wasn't saying he was literally Glenn Beck. Blink

You're too sane and well spoken to be any right-wing pundit, even if I disagree with you on occasion. Maybe we'll pretend you're Rachel Maddow or something instead.


Dawww, make me blush. A compliment? Wait... there's a goon sneaking up behind me isn't there? What?
It's a recruitment attempt.
Just like the Royal Navy.

They don't call it "press gang", rather "press office / PR", but that changes nothing.

Beware of the Goon!

Best wishes,
-(apparently a discount-goon)
Frying Doom
#131 - 2013-05-02 23:26:59 UTC
mynnna wrote:
And before you ask and wonder why I seem so happy to respond to you, from which one could draw the conclusion that you do have "power" over me: It's because I take great pleasure in egging you on and drawing your insanity out for more and more people to see. Bear

Now, to some people, I would have just given up the game. They'd have realized that quite a lot of people regard them as nuts, and perhaps take a step back, moderate their posting, maybe even stop posting entirely.

But not you. Oh, no. You are so convinced of your genius, so convinced of your very rightness that you'll just keep on posting, keep on generating entertainment for the rest of us. I'm not sure if you're American or not, but for the Americans out there, it's very much akin to Glenn Beck and all the advertisers he lost in the wake of... well, we'll avoid the name for it because it's rather inappropriate, but suffice it to say the tl;dr for anyone unaware he's a radio show host who said a lot of rather inappropriate things on air about a woman named Sandra Fluke, and so lost a lot of ad deals as a result. Did the loss of the hundreds of thousands, even millions of dollars worth of ad deals over his words and actions stop him? Nope, he just kept going right on, kept saying insane things.

Now to the very great shame of the US, this man still wields an absurd amount of power, in his own way, which is rather more than you can say. But the point I'm getting at is that some people just can't help themselves. You are one of them.

I have seen some of this Glen becks quotes

But frankly I am more offended at the idea of being thought of as an American.

Now why would I stop posting just because some people from Null, taunt and abuse me for not telling the narrative they want everyone else to believe. There seem to be set scripts for some of the posters on these forums as to what lines they need to hold, and what threads to try to derail, the later not really being a problem in Jita Park as so few read what is written here.

As I have said before if you take the position of Chairman it will only be for your ego and the ego of those in Goonswarm and Null, while having a Hi-sec chairman will be a much needed boost to Hi-sec egos as well as being good PR for the CSM and attracting more interest from within the Hi-sec community, and as one of the Narratives is that Null makes up so many of the people in Hi-sec, look at it this way, a Hi-sec chairman is supposedly representing most of your voters anyway.

Now I will say you are brilliant when it comes to the markets, why not stick to what you are good at and help to work out how to remove some of the welfare features in this game like the cheap NPC facility slots, to make POS a more rewarding thing to have, especially with the new changes to Ice and help speed up the welfare payments that are Moon Mining. Now tech has been shot in the foot that is a good start and CCP have hinted they want to go furture. Help them.

But you do not need to be Chairman to do any of these things. Your ego does not need fluffing do what is right for the CSM.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Frying Doom
#132 - 2013-05-02 23:29:16 UTC
mynnna wrote:
Look it's an analogy okay. I wasn't saying he was literally Glenn Beck. Blink

You're too sane and well spoken to be any right-wing pundit, even if I disagree with you on occasion. Maybe we'll pretend you're Rachel Maddow or something instead.

From that I presume you must be a left wing democrat.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
mynnna
State War Academy
Caldari State
#133 - 2013-05-03 01:11:06 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
mynnna wrote:
Look it's an analogy okay. I wasn't saying he was literally Glenn Beck. Blink

You're too sane and well spoken to be any right-wing pundit, even if I disagree with you on occasion. Maybe we'll pretend you're Rachel Maddow or something instead.

From that I presume you must be a left wing democrat.


As incorrect a presumption as virtually everything else you post.

Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal
Frying Doom
#134 - 2013-05-03 03:23:03 UTC
mynnna wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
mynnna wrote:
Look it's an analogy okay. I wasn't saying he was literally Glenn Beck. Blink

You're too sane and well spoken to be any right-wing pundit, even if I disagree with you on occasion. Maybe we'll pretend you're Rachel Maddow or something instead.

From that I presume you must be a left wing democrat.


As incorrect a presumption as virtually everything else you post.

So you won't be trying to stuff your ego with the chairmans position then, well that would at least be nice to see that you put the CSM above your own ego.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
mynnna
State War Academy
Caldari State
#135 - 2013-05-03 04:39:54 UTC
And another incorrect presumption. Whether or not I opt to run for chair will have nothing to do with "stuffing my ego".

Not that you're willing to believe that, of course.

Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal
Frying Doom
#136 - 2013-05-03 04:42:12 UTC
mynnna wrote:
And another incorrect presumption. Whether or not I opt to run for chair will have nothing to do with "stuffing my ego".

Not that you're willing to believe that, of course.

As you have shown in this thread and others, communication is not your strong point, market analysis is. So if you go for chairman a role dedicated to communication, then yes it is just for your ego.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
dark heartt
#137 - 2013-05-03 05:01:22 UTC
mynnna wrote:
I'm not sure if you're American or not


Pretty sure he's an Aussie, like me, just because of his discussion of the STV system was always brought back to the Australian Elections and how they are compulsory over here (and he seemed to know an awful lot about Australians who don't vote getting fined).

http://tetrisisunrealistic.blogspot.com.au/
mynnna
State War Academy
Caldari State
#138 - 2013-05-03 05:02:41 UTC  |  Edited by: mynnna
And another incorrect statement, this time casting your opinion as fact. I do have to say it's entertaining to have my skills as a communicator insulted by someone who proudly embraces his own poor spelling and grammar.

In any case, there are far more (and far more significant) reasons for me to take the position than to massage my ego, just as there are far more reasons for me to turn it down than "thinking of the good of the CSM". Your unwillingness to acknowledge that is disappointing, but given your attempts to build a narrative, frankly unsurprising.

I'll say nothing else on the subject until we've announced our officers.

dark heartt wrote:
mynnna wrote:
I'm not sure if you're American or not


Pretty sure he's an Aussie, like me, just because of his discussion of the STV system was always brought back to the Australian Elections and how they are compulsory over here (and he seemed to know an awful lot about Australians who don't vote getting fined).

Ah of course, how could I have forgotten his incorrect insistence that STV is designed to work with compulsory voting.

Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal
Snow Axe
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#139 - 2013-05-03 05:05:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Snow Axe
Frying Doom wrote:
As you have shown in this thread and others, communication is not your strong point, market analysis is. So if you go for chairman a role dedicated to communication, then yes it is just for your ego.


Even if you were right about mynnna not being a good communicator (you're not, fyi), that'd only be the tiniest fraction of what makes a chair good. Seleene and Trebor are both fine communicators, but their chair/vice chair performance left a lot to be desired.

Also I'd bet cash money that mynnna gets way more of an ego massage from his regular Cabal stuff than he ever would from the CSM.

"Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread["
Frying Doom
#140 - 2013-05-03 05:18:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Frying Doom
Snow Axe wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
As you have shown in this thread and others, communication is not your strong point, market analysis is. So if you go for chairman a role dedicated to communication, then yes it is just for your ego.


Even if you were right about mynnna not being a good communicator (you're not, fyi), that'd only be the tiniest fraction of what makes a chair good. Seleene and Trebor are both fine communicators, but their chair/vice chair performance left a lot to be desired.

Also I'd bet cash money that mynnna gets way more of an ego massage from his regular Cabal stuff than he ever would from the CSM.

In the old CSM the chairman was the head of the CSM body, it is now according to the white paper the position responsible for communication.

You do not have to be the chairman of the CSM to be its leader. The need to be chairman, which is in this case just the title of head communicator, when you do not fit this role, but take it anyway it can only be for the sake of ego.

As to Seleene and Trebor, personally I would say their communication during CSM7 to the player base was very occasional and poor.

If Mynnna or who ever ends up leading the CSM needs a meaningless title for an ego boost, why dont they just create the title President of the CSM. That way their ego gets stuffed and the chairmans position can go to someone responsible for communication as it is meant to, and as I said previously if the position helps CSM PR with the non-voters in high sec so much the better.

But don't just use the chairman title to stuff your ego.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!