EVE Fiction

Lets say the EVE colonists got sent back 22k years r so, and as they went through hell and rebirth to get to this point. Earth in there time line only 100 years has past and they have been trying to get the gate open finally after a hundred years they do (But stabilized the gate so no time change) and see that everything has changed and we r at war with each other. It would be confusing as hell but fun as well.

The Blood Raiders had to come from somewhere, right?

I heard that the Jovian control a wormhole to Eath Space. That is where they get their advance tech, which explains this wierd Apple with a bait out of in on my implaints.

It would be cool if the eve gate to the milky way re-opend, The sol system and earth could become the new jita as it be the system on the boarder of both gallxys.

Story line could go.. The jove reopen the gate sparking a war between us with jove assistance against the advanced new faction of earth.

To who ever said the milky way was out of resources... it was my understanding that 16000 years ago when the eve gate opened earth had not explored the milky way as the didnt have jump gates, and only the resources of the sol system were depleted.


I also think it be a great twist if worm hole space turned out to be the milky way and that the original earth empire created and were then over run by sleepers. Pahaps a small pocket of earth forces could remain some where out thier at about the same tech level as us and crippled by constant sleeper attacks.

come on guys i can't even believe this is being debated this thread is so full of fail its ridiculous it is well know and documented that earth humans came through the eve gate the jove are humans who messed with the genetic bull and got the horn and the 4 main races are from the same earth human background as well stop speculating on things that are well known

Kwatz! I hate it when people do this in real life with Evolutionary Theory, so let me make something abundantly clear:

In scientific terms, a theory is a stress-tested framework of explanations for a set of known facts that has graduated to the status of truth through both not having been disproven, and being of practical use. Einstein's theory of relativity has given us GPS satellites and allowed us to launch space probes. Evolutionary theory is the beating, working heart of every branch of modern biological sciences. Neither is ever going to be overturned, only refined and polished.

A theory, in science, basically means "explanation." if it's yet to reach that graduation point, it's known as a hypothesis, which in more common usage might be called an "educated guess". The term "just a theory and not an accepted fact" therefore reveals profound scientific ignorance in the person who utters it. It's akin to saying "The Hobbit is just a book, it's not a word." It is that dumb and back-asswards. The former is what lends context, meaning and usefulness to the latter.

examples:
Fact: Matter attracts matter via a force we call "gravity".
Hypothesis: "I think that gravity exists matter curves space-time, and that the "attraction" is what we see in three-dimensional space when an object follows a straight line along the curved surface of space-time."
Law: "When viewed in an inertial reference frame, an object either is at rest or moves at a constant velocity, unless acted upon by a force."
Prediction: "If our hypothesis is correct then when we put object X at location Y with velocity Z then when it passes near to object A it should follow trajectory B."
Observation: "We put object X at location Y with velocity Z. When it passed near object A, it followed trajectory B."
Conclusion: "therefore, our hypothesis is not wrong and makes useful predictions... our hypothesis has graduated to the status of a theory"

Alternatively, if Object A had followed trajectory C instead, then the hypothesis would be falsified and discarded, and a new hypothesis would need to be thought up.

Common Origin Theory, being an actual scientific theory in the fiction of the setting, is the working scientific mainstream understanding of how humanity came to be present in and spread across the cluster. It is disprovable but has not been disproven, it produces testable predictions (which, because it happens to be correct, will always be correct).

HOWEVER: The term "theory" is co-opted by people like moon landing conspiracy theorists and 9/11 inside-job theorists and so on in an attempt to lend credence to their position, so you have to be careful - seeing the word "theory" doesn't automatically mean that the idea has any serious scientific support. "theory" is not a legally protected term (though it bloody well should be), and many people have hijacked public ignorance of what the word means to try and make their own version look equal with the actual theories. Flat earth theory, intelligent design theory,

The same will apply in the fiction of New Eden. "Syncretism theory" and "Mold theory" will not be scientific theories because, frankly, they're wrong. We know that from a broken-fourth-wall perspective. They will never BE theories for that precise same reason. But anybody who personally believes in them is able to call them theories and thereby lend them the appearance of equal credence. They are opposing (and incorrect) beliefs exactly akin to Young Earth Creationism and the Geocentric model.

it is anything BUT a valid theory. There's nothing intelligent about the design of creatures where the nerve from the top of the spinal cord to the vocal cords mere inches away goes via the heart. (the recurrent laryngeal nerve)

There's nothing intelligent about breathing from the same orifice you use to ingest food, leading to choking.

there's nothing intelligent about routing an excretion orifice through a reproductive organ.

There's nothing intelligent about leaving humans with a digestive appendix that serves us no useful evolutionary purpose, and occasionally ruptures and kills us.

You can make an argument for "Conscious but idiotic design" being not disproven, but it still makes no testable predictions, which is the other - and arguably more important - requirement for something to qualify as being a theory. seeing as Conscious Design makes no such testable predictions, it is not and shall never be a valid theory by the scientific definition of the term.

Lastly, by invoking God (or some similar intervening creator force) it is not only not-falsified, it is unfalsifiable. Falsifiability being a prerequisite for something to be considered a useful and valid scientific theory, Conscious Design is not a valid theory.

I ammended my statement to hypothesis.. But it MAY be true... And if so, the scientific community will choke on it's own assumptions.. Of which you have just added a few.. While it may be idiotic in your eyes, you are not omniscient.. Who's to say?

LOL, I intended no disrepect, though you obviously experienced those feelings.. Who is to say there is no "purpose" in the idiocy of the design. We humans use idiocy of design with purpose in manufacturing every day. Why? perishability. I sense a bit of arrogance in your demeanor. I don't claim to have enough facts to deem the design idiotic.

My statement that you are not omniscient was not a dig, it was a statement of empirical fact. Whether you like it or not, it is true. I believe you unqualified to make such a statement. You have placed yourself in the position of superiority to a posited intelligence that might have created reality itself. That, sir, is unmitigated arrogance..

I accept the possibility of your rebuttal, though, likelyhood drops by a marginal degree...

I prefer to believe in some purpose beyond mere physical imperative... Should I not, I am less important in the grander scheme of things than an earthworm. It has purpose, in your summation of reality, we do not.. You may be right, and the joke is on me.. I would rather cling to my delusions, it is safer for everyone..

In a purely emperical, logical world, all of our laws and customs would devolve to delusional self gratification and anything I can concieve becomes acceptable under your logical worldview... Survival of the fittest, mob rules mentality.. Look around you, it is coming to pass... Where would men like Hawkings and Einstein have ended up in such a worldview? Dead and forgotten, assuredly..