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Anyone else misses Jesus features?
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Cat Troll
Incorruptibles
#1 - 2013-05-02 17:47:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Cat Troll
I don't care how broken and unfinished they were, they brought excitement with each new expansion.
We had 4 expansions without them, and even though I appreciate the countless improvements done to the game, I really want something new to play with Sad


Not complaining, just asking if anyone else feels like this.

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Diesel47
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#2 - 2013-05-02 17:52:27 UTC
What is jesus feature?
mynnna
State War Academy
Caldari State
#3 - 2013-05-02 17:52:42 UTC
Odyssey is filled with things that I don't think most people consider to be "jesus features" and yet there is a tremendous amount of excitement over the patch.

It's also hard to look at Odyssey and say there's nothing "new". Exploration revamps are pretty new, I'd say. Tiericide results in a lot of newness as it shakes up the metagame, too.

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Some Rando
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2013-05-02 17:52:47 UTC
The only "Jesus feature" I've experienced was Incarna, and let's just say I was a bit disappointed because it was also my first impression of what an EVE expansion was. Thankfully CCP has moved towards providing great content and improvements.

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Cat Troll
Incorruptibles
#5 - 2013-05-02 17:54:12 UTC
mynnna wrote:
Odyssey is filled with things that I don't think most people consider to be "jesus features" and yet there is a tremendous amount of excitement over the patch.

It's also hard to look at Odyssey and say there's nothing "new". Exploration revamps are pretty new, I'd say. Tiericide results in a lot of newness as it shakes up the metagame, too.

Wouldn't call them Jesus features, but yes, I am excited for Odyssey.
When I first started playing the game I hoped it would allow me to roam the stars seeking treasures and fighting off baddies.
The game quickly turned into spreadsheets.

Lolwut: "Yes, you kids don't know how lucky you have it. These days noobs get given free tackle ships for PvP but back in the old days the only tackle ships we were given were our pods. We had to use them to bump their rookie ships out of alignment to stop them warping off."
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#6 - 2013-05-02 17:54:22 UTC
No.

There are plenty of other threads where you can ***** about WIS, troll cat.






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Cat Troll
Incorruptibles
#7 - 2013-05-02 17:55:10 UTC
Some Rando wrote:
The only "Jesus feature" I've experienced was Incarna, and let's just say I was a bit disappointed because it was also my first impression of what an EVE expansion was. Thankfully CCP has moved towards providing great content and improvements.

I would say wormholes would be considered one.

Lolwut: "Yes, you kids don't know how lucky you have it. These days noobs get given free tackle ships for PvP but back in the old days the only tackle ships we were given were our pods. We had to use them to bump their rookie ships out of alignment to stop them warping off."
ElQuirko
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2013-05-02 17:55:26 UTC
mynnna wrote:
Exploration revamps are pretty new, I'd say. Tiericide results in a lot of newness as it shakes up the metagame, too.


No, these are necessary changes. Not really content. I believe the OP wants something shiny and interesting, and I do concur. However, it has to be taken into account that we're experiencing ship revamps; can't really introduce a new class right now unless it's a really niche thing without upsetting the process.

Dodixie > Hek
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#9 - 2013-05-02 17:55:34 UTC
No.
Cat Troll
Incorruptibles
#10 - 2013-05-02 17:55:57 UTC
Doc Fury wrote:
No.

There are plenty of other threads where you can ***** about WIS, troll cat.







Hmm, not sure what you're talking about.

Lolwut: "Yes, you kids don't know how lucky you have it. These days noobs get given free tackle ships for PvP but back in the old days the only tackle ships we were given were our pods. We had to use them to bump their rookie ships out of alignment to stop them warping off."
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#11 - 2013-05-02 17:57:53 UTC
We asked for the little things and CCP listened.

The tribe has spoken.

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Acac Sunflyier
The Ascended Academy
#12 - 2013-05-02 17:57:54 UTC
I do quite a bit. I remember when Incursions were added as a jeasus feature. also maybe wormholes. The jeasus features were huge changes that brought real and interesting dynamics to the game. Wish they'd come back
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#13 - 2013-05-02 17:58:52 UTC
Apocrypha was a particularly feature-rich expansion, with lots of new "content" in the form of 2500 new systems to explore. There was no "Jesus" feature in Apocrypha. The whole point of a "Jesus feature" was that it would be something that would draw people to the game in such huge numbers that it would be worth betting the company on. The only "Jesus" feature we've had was Incarna, and that was delivered in such a feature-poor state (only 1 flavour of CQ, and only the CQ was available) that it turned a large number of people (devs and players alike) right off Incarna.

Nobody misses Jesus features. Some of us do pine for what Incarna could have been, if it hadn't been cut down, trampled and buried before it could bear fruit.

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Cat Troll
Incorruptibles
#14 - 2013-05-02 17:59:13 UTC
Mr Epeen wrote:
We asked for the little things and CCP listened.

The tribe has spoken.

Mr Epeen Cool

After 4 expansions of little things I think something new wouldn't hurt.
I would say Odyssey is close enough.

Lolwut: "Yes, you kids don't know how lucky you have it. These days noobs get given free tackle ships for PvP but back in the old days the only tackle ships we were given were our pods. We had to use them to bump their rookie ships out of alignment to stop them warping off."
Acac Sunflyier
The Ascended Academy
#15 - 2013-05-02 18:06:43 UTC
I think seagul was hinting at a return of jesus features with the new stargates to a new type of space. Also I don 't know if dust could be considered a jesus feature or not. They're definitely adding a bunch of stuff to eve around it.
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#16 - 2013-05-02 18:06:48 UTC
I had to google that so you get 5/10.

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Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#17 - 2013-05-02 18:07:20 UTC
My guess is that they're building toward new, big stuff, with the colonization development arc.

Is it bad that I hope this gives me a chance to have an ant farm?

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mynnna
State War Academy
Caldari State
#18 - 2013-05-02 18:12:03 UTC
Mara Rinn wrote:
Apocrypha was a particularly feature-rich expansion, with lots of new "content" in the form of 2500 new systems to explore. There was no "Jesus" feature in Apocrypha. The whole point of a "Jesus feature" was that it would be something that would draw people to the game in such huge numbers that it would be worth betting the company on. The only "Jesus" feature we've had was Incarna, and that was delivered in such a feature-poor state (only 1 flavour of CQ, and only the CQ was available) that it turned a large number of people (devs and players alike) right off Incarna.

Nobody misses Jesus features. Some of us do pine for what Incarna could have been, if it hadn't been cut down, trampled and buried before it could bear fruit.


Yeah, basically this. New features are great. But they need to be solid and properly implemented, not overreaching and half working in the hopes of attracting new players.

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Cat Troll
Incorruptibles
#19 - 2013-05-02 18:12:16 UTC
Acac Sunflyier wrote:
I think seagul was hinting at a return of jesus features with the new stargates to a new type of space. Also I don 't know if dust could be considered a jesus feature or not. They're definitely adding a bunch of stuff to eve around it.

Dust and EVE would probably be affecting each other much more than they do now if the players weren't so vocal and negative about Dust.
Its much more calm now than before, so hopefully they start pushing the link.

Lolwut: "Yes, you kids don't know how lucky you have it. These days noobs get given free tackle ships for PvP but back in the old days the only tackle ships we were given were our pods. We had to use them to bump their rookie ships out of alignment to stop them warping off."
Jame Jarl Retief
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#20 - 2013-05-02 18:23:50 UTC
mynnna wrote:
It's also hard to look at Odyssey and say there's nothing "new". Exploration revamps are pretty new, I'd say. Tiericide results in a lot of newness as it shakes up the metagame, too.


You said it yourself, "exploration revamp". How can a revamp of anything be called new? Take a can of Pepsi, revamp it to Pepsi Zero. It's still Pepzi, just with less calories. Compared to the release of the original Pepsi, it is nothing. That's the problem with recent EVE expansions. An expansion that adds 4 new ships and tweaks the balance of 20 old ones just doesn't measure up to an expansion that releases 20 new ships that perform roles that didn't even exist before.

Same with tiericide. It is a "re-balance'. Tweaking the existing content. It can't be called "new". Well, you sorta* can, but not really. I mean, you could claim that Amarr battleship being tuned into a drone boat is "new". I guess it is, in a way. But at the same time, the hull is mostly old, drones are nothing new, nor are the rest of the stuff. So while technically we get a "new ship", a battleship with drones and cap warfare bonuses that didn't exist before, is it really 100% new? When all it is is a maxi-Arbitrator, the same way as Dragoon is the mini-Arby?
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