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House Sarum “gearing up for next stage in Reclaiming”, aggressive warnings from Federation and Repub
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Gaven Lok'ri
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#21 - 2013-05-02 15:52:25 UTC
I believe a famous scripture passage says it best:

"I give to you the destiny of Faith,
And you will bring its message to every planet of every star in the heavens:
Go forth, conquer in my Name, and reclaim that which I have given."

The Matari started this war, but we will finish it. It is good to see that Lord Sarum understands this.

Admiral of the Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris

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Anslo
Scope Works
#22 - 2013-05-02 16:01:01 UTC
Gaven Lok'ri wrote:
I believe a famous scripture passage says it best:

"I give to you the destiny of Faith,
And you will bring its message to every planet of every star in the heavens:
Go forth, conquer in my Name, and reclaim that which I have given."

The Matari started this war, but we will finish it. It is good to see that Lord Sarum understands this.


I think the war started when you bible thumping nuts started stealing men, women, children, and whole families, and then proceed to sell them off into slavery, separating children from mothers, brothers from sisters, husbands from wives.

I'm sorry but don't hide behind the scriptures and use it as an excuse for your assholishness to say the 'Minmatar started it.'

Sod off.

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Emile Belfleur
Solar Zouaves
#23 - 2013-05-02 16:09:37 UTC
I regretfully see that once again, a Federal President threatens to lead us into further foreign entanglements.

Let us stay out of this mess - it is none of our affair.
Caellach Marellus
Stormcrows
#24 - 2013-05-02 16:30:30 UTC
Wow, Roden's showing the balls to do the right thing for once. I'm impressed.

This is mostly sabre rattling though, the Amarrian Empire won't risk CONCORD Mandate, those loud voices of discontent and wishful thinking will continue to sit behind the Ammatar body shield thrown in the Republic's direction as they continue to prod and poke.

It's almost like some elements of the Empire want to goad the Republic into making the first step.

When your gut instincts tell you something is wrong, trust them. When your heart tells you something is right, ignore it, check with your brain first. Accept nothing, challenge everything.
Samira Kernher
Cail Avetatu
#25 - 2013-05-02 16:39:52 UTC
I pray that Her Imperial Majesty and the other Royal Families will put their support behind House Sarum. The Reclaiming has been put on hold for too long.
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#26 - 2013-05-02 16:44:28 UTC
The Shakorites have been poking the hornet's nest for a while now. It's hardly surprising if there are consequences.

Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#27 - 2013-05-02 16:48:49 UTC
Anslo wrote:
Gaven Lok'ri wrote:
I believe a famous scripture passage says it best:

"I give to you the destiny of Faith,
And you will bring its message to every planet of every star in the heavens:
Go forth, conquer in my Name, and reclaim that which I have given."

The Matari started this war, but we will finish it. It is good to see that Lord Sarum understands this.


I think the war started when you bible thumping nuts started stealing men, women, children, and whole families, and then proceed to sell them off into slavery, separating children from mothers, brothers from sisters, husbands from wives.



You seem to have forgotten the peace treaty that was signed prior to the Shakorites' cowardly attack on the Empire.

Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori
Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#28 - 2013-05-02 16:49:50 UTC
Samira Kernher wrote:
I pray that Her Imperial Majesty and the other Royal Families will put their support behind House Sarum. The Reclaiming has been put on hold for too long.

Trust me. Regardless of the way a Reclaiming plays out, none of the outcomes have the mentally handicapped race-traitors of the Ammatar Mandate coming out ahead.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.
Anabella Rella
Gradient
Electus Matari
#29 - 2013-05-02 16:51:29 UTC
Quinzel Nikulainen wrote:

Always did find it curious that the Minmatar seem more interested in revenge than prevention.


Other than the current diplomatic dialog what exactly would you have us do, pilot? The last time we acted proactively, to rescue the Starkmanir and their Nefantar guardians, we were criticized for breaking treaties and precipitating a war.

When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around.
Caellach Marellus
Stormcrows
#30 - 2013-05-02 16:51:53 UTC
Rodj Blake wrote:
The Shakorites have been poking the hornet's nest for a while now. It's hardly surprising if there are consequences.


I'm confused Admiral, had I looked at such an analogy, I would say it is the Empire who pokes at the Hornet's nest, and has done so for several generations.

This is however an escalation on both sides, a cold war if you will. The trick is not who can strike first and catch their enemy off guard, but who can show restraint, favour will be shown by the rest of the cluster to those who have war brought upon them by force, not by choice.

And no one Empire is greater than the might of the other three.

When your gut instincts tell you something is wrong, trust them. When your heart tells you something is right, ignore it, check with your brain first. Accept nothing, challenge everything.
Leopold Caine
Stillwater Corporation
#31 - 2013-05-02 16:52:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Leopold Caine
I'm somewhat surprised to see everyone mentioning Uriam's assault on Solitude, implying any attempt like that should fail and mocking the Amarr, without remembering Jamyl practically singlehandedlly destroying the Republic Fleet force over Mekhios.

Katarina Musana wrote:
Roden's right. There will be reparations, taken by force if necessary, if House Sarum goes through with this plan of theirs.


Oh, I'm sure they're shaking in their boots.

Andreus Ixiris wrote:
Amarrians and their supporters cry loud and obnoxious crocodile tears and whine about how violent and unreasonable the Minmatar are.

In other news, planets orbit stars, space is vast and it's cold in Arcurio.


.. and msr. Ixiris' bias and racism is as obvious as it can be. Good to see some things don't change.

Anslo wrote:

I think the war started when you bible thumping nuts started stealing men, women, children, and whole families, and then proceed to sell them off into slavery, separating children from mothers, brothers from sisters, husbands from wives.


Haters gonna hate.
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
Guiding Hand Social Club
#32 - 2013-05-02 16:54:25 UTC
If you find the news of a renewed Reclaiming worrying, wait until you stop to truly, deeply consider how many vanguards and advance agents they have within all your empires already. I'm not talking about the obvious ones; the priests and pryors and other assorted megaphone-shouty types, easily countered by a hastily assembled torching mob. I refer to the ones who bow their heads to the one true God in private, who perhaps have a secret shrine in their locker devoted to the faith of Amarr, hidden among the clutter, and speak to none of their fellow Gallente, Caldari, or even Minmatar about their beliefs.

I wonder... just how many of these spiritual expatriates would hear their faith's call-to-arms louder than the rallying cry of their present nationality?
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#33 - 2013-05-02 16:58:47 UTC
Caellach Marellus wrote:
The trick is not who can strike first and catch their enemy off guard, but who can show restraint, favour will be shown by the rest of the cluster to those who have war brought upon them by force, not by choice.



Which, given that it was the Elders who attacked us, means that the Empire is in a favourable position.

Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori
Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2013-05-02 16:59:54 UTC
Leopold Caine wrote:
I'm somewhat surprised to see everyone mentioning Uriam's assault on Solitude, implying any attempt like that should fail and mocking the Amarr, without remembering Jamyl practically singlehandedlly destroying the Republic Fleet force over Mekhios.

A feat she's been notably unable to reproduce at any point since that time.

Leopold Caine wrote:
Oh, I'm sure they're shaking in their boots.

One should remember that the last time the Empire attempted a war of conquest, they failed so spectacularly it undid the success of the previous one.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.
Anabella Rella
Gradient
Electus Matari
#35 - 2013-05-02 17:00:37 UTC
TomHorn wrote:
Horn family wish you the servants of God glory and success on your new launch of Reclaiming.

We hope you Merimeth Sarum will go on and fulfill your destiny and become the Greatest Warrior and Royal Heir of the House of Sarum.



You realize that you Caldari are on the chopping block along with the rest of the cluster, yes? The imperials have made a temporary arrangement born of convenience with your government. In effect the slavers have said to you, "I like you, I'll kill you last"; in the end you're just as dead. You'll just be more cargo for their slave barges.

When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around.
Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#36 - 2013-05-02 17:08:02 UTC
While I can commend the notion of uplift, and the paternal tendency inherent in shepherding, this seems an ill-timed, militaristic move. I speak as an outsider, but it seems that Sarum is motivated more by the pride that comes from conquest, not the nobler ideal of uplift. The Matari remain in a tumult, and have been acting aggressively toward their Federation allies. Would it not be more prudent to allow that to play out before engaging in any sort of militarism? Aggression will unify the Matari and Gallente, while biding time may break their union.

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Leopold Caine
Stillwater Corporation
#37 - 2013-05-02 17:10:58 UTC
Leopold Caine wrote:
Oh, I'm sure they're shaking in their boots.

One should remember that the last time the Empire attempted a war of conquest, they failed so spectacularly it undid the success of the previous one.[/quote]

I wouldn't call Uriam's little drunken fit regarding Solitude a 'war of conquest'.
Didn't know there's some kind of keeping track of... um, points, but I'm glad to see you are already neck deep in it.

I'm just saying, with the Amarr Navy being the largest and most powerful one out there, it's funny to see some people mentioning Uriam Kador when they have so much more to worry about.

Funny and amusing. Carry on, msr.
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Uriel Khaden
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#38 - 2013-05-02 17:15:04 UTC
Ava Starfire wrote:
While I hope this is just a random and unsanctioned act by a single house, the fact that it is the Empress' house does not bode well. This will lead to a widening of the war.


A quick clarification, I ask that you understand this is not opposition to your sentiment, merely a political correction:

House Sarum ceased to be the Empress' House when she became the Empress. As per Imperial political procedure, she and her immediate family became assimilated into the Emperor Family and act independently of all the royal houses. House Sarum is acting solely on the direction of its current head and heir: Merimeth Sarum.

The Empress should not be considered complicit or in support of the actions of House Sarum until she, or one of her representatives, states so.
Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#39 - 2013-05-02 17:25:43 UTC
Leopold Caine wrote:
I wouldn't call Uriam's little drunken fit regarding Solitude a 'war of conquest'.
Didn't know there's some kind of keeping track of... um, points, but I'm glad to see you are already neck deep in it.

I'm just saying, with the Amarr Navy being the largest and most powerful one out there, it's funny to see some people mentioning Uriam Kador when they have so much more to worry about.

Funny and amusing. Carry on, msr.

Perhaps.

You know what's more funny and amusing? The fact that you think I'm talking about Uriam Kador, and based an arrogant put-down off of it.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.
Silas Vitalia
Doomheim
#40 - 2013-05-02 17:31:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Silas Vitalia
Uriel Khaden wrote:

...she and her immediate family became assimilated into the Emperor Family and act independently of all the royal houses. House Sarum is acting solely on the direction of its current head and heir: Merimeth Sarum.


Naievity of the highest order.

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