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I'm sorry CCP, that we the pilots, are stoping EVE from growing

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John Stuward
Doomheim
#1 - 2013-05-02 16:31:58 UTC
It's not easy to pull in new pilots when they are being preyed upon by people who want an easy target, or the null sec blocks that paint such a negative image of EVE. Most of the things you hear about EVE are about all the terrible things we manage to do to each other while under the flag of Anon.

There are not many who wish to be part of the worst society has to offer.

There are the good, but they are massively over shadowed by the bad.


(This is an Alt, and this isnt how EVE should be... but it's all a matter of opinion, isnt it?)
Rhivre
TarNec
Invisible Exchequer
#2 - 2013-05-02 16:34:04 UTC
John Stuward wrote:
It's not easy to pull in new pilots when they are being preyed upon by people who want an easy target, or the null sec blocks that paint such a negative image of EVE. Most of the things you hear about EVE are about all the terrible things we manage to do to each other while under the flag of Anon.

There are not many who wish to be part of the worst society has to offer.

There are the good, but they are massively over shadowed by the bad.


(This is an Alt, and this isnt how EVE should be... but it's all a matter of opinion, isnt it?)



That is because those are the ones the media like to talk about, which is also why I wrote that "10 years, 10 questions" thing, to show that not everyone in Eve runs around doing "ebil" stuff, even though I do not think the majority do.

As always "bad guy steals bazillions" makes a better headline than "Players help each other out" even if the occurrence of the latter is way higher than the former

*shrugs*

EDIT: This isnt an alt, or at least I dont think so, it could be, I am easily confused.

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Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#3 - 2013-05-02 16:35:02 UTC
Ban the flag of Anon.

Oh god.
Niko medes
Freeman Technologies
#4 - 2013-05-02 16:38:38 UTC
Riot Girl wrote:
Ban the flag of Anon.


^
Varius Xeral
Doomheim
#5 - 2013-05-02 16:39:08 UTC
Locked for trolling.

Official Representative of The Nullsec Zealot Cabal
Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#6 - 2013-05-02 16:41:13 UTC
John Stuward wrote:
It's not easy to pull in new pilots when they are being preyed upon by people who want an easy target, or the null sec blocks that paint such a negative image of EVE. Most of the things you hear about EVE are about all the terrible things we manage to do to each other while under the flag of Anon.

There are not many who wish to be part of the worst society has to offer.

There are the good, but they are massively over shadowed by the bad.


Exactly, and this is why EVE is great , unlike the majority of MMOs which are "meh" at best and will die soon after launching. Most people (including, unfortunately several EVE players) simply aren't suited for EVE. That makes EVE "exclusive". Exclusicvity is good, it's why Gold is better than dirt, and why Sachs 5th Avenue is better than Wal-mart.

If you want wal-mart in an mmo, sorry, this ain't it.

Quote:

(This is an Alt, and this isn't how EVE should be... but it's all a matter of opinion, isnt it?)


Nope, the fact is EVE is good and most games aren't, which is why EVE still exists and most MMOs made so far are already dead.
Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#7 - 2013-05-02 16:42:14 UTC
Riot Girl wrote:
Ban the flag of Anon.


I would, but I was too busy blowing the Horn of Gondor. Did I meantion my boyfriend is named "Gondor"? Make of this what you will.
Zak Breen
Breen Enterprises
#8 - 2013-05-02 16:42:48 UTC
From my (shoddy) experience the main reason why new people quit is because EVE isn't a short-term game to play. It takes months if not years to actually get anything out of it. One of my friends quit because he thought it was too complicated. He logged in, did the Aura tutorial, and logged out never to be seen again - didn't even try it the rest of the 21 days he had free.

Maturity, one discovers, has everything to do with the acceptance of not knowing. http://www.di.fm/spacemusic
Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#9 - 2013-05-02 16:45:46 UTC
Zak Breen wrote:
From my (shoddy) experience the main reason why new people quit is because EVE isn't a short-term game to play. It takes months if not years to actually get anything out of it. One of my friends quit because he thought it was too complicated. He logged in, did the Aura tutorial, and logged out never to be seen again - didn't even try it the rest of the 21 days he had free.


Same with some of my friends. I love em, but they need instant gratification and EVE isn't about that.

The very things that make it great keep it small.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#10 - 2013-05-02 16:48:36 UTC
John Stuward wrote:
It's not easy to pull in new pilots when they are being preyed upon by people who want an easy target, or the null sec blocks that paint such a negative image of EVE. Most of the things you hear about EVE are about all the terrible things we manage to do to each other while under the flag of Anon.

There are not many who wish to be part of the worst society has to offer.

There are the good, but they are massively over shadowed by the bad.


(This is an Alt, and this isnt how EVE should be... but it's all a matter of opinion, isnt it?)



You're welcome to your opinion, but it's a matter of fact that EVE is growing. So we're not stopping it.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#11 - 2013-05-02 16:49:16 UTC
Zak Breen wrote:
From my (shoddy) experience the main reason why new people quit is because EVE isn't a short-term game to play. It takes months if not years to actually get anything out of it. One of my friends quit because he thought it was too complicated. He logged in, did the Aura tutorial, and logged out never to be seen again - didn't even try it the rest of the 21 days he had free.


Send him to DUST?

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Varius Xeral
Doomheim
#12 - 2013-05-02 16:51:08 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Send him to DUST?


DUST is a gateway drug.

Official Representative of The Nullsec Zealot Cabal
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#13 - 2013-05-02 16:58:00 UTC
Poasting in a stealth EVE is Dying(tm) thread.

Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.

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John Stuward
Doomheim
#14 - 2013-05-02 16:58:36 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
John Stuward wrote:
It's not easy to pull in new pilots when they are being preyed upon by people who want an easy target, or the null sec blocks that paint such a negative image of EVE. Most of the things you hear about EVE are about all the terrible things we manage to do to each other while under the flag of Anon.

There are not many who wish to be part of the worst society has to offer.

There are the good, but they are massively over shadowed by the bad.


(This is an Alt, and this isnt how EVE should be... but it's all a matter of opinion, isnt it?)



You're welcome to your opinion, but it's a matter of fact that EVE is growing. So we're not stopping it.



After 10 years, this is how Far EVE has gotten? I'd call it stable before I'd call it growing. Any growth it has is nothing compared to what it could have if the community was better.
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#15 - 2013-05-02 17:01:06 UTC
John Stuward wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
John Stuward wrote:
It's not easy to pull in new pilots when they are being preyed upon by people who want an easy target, or the null sec blocks that paint such a negative image of EVE. Most of the things you hear about EVE are about all the terrible things we manage to do to each other while under the flag of Anon.

There are not many who wish to be part of the worst society has to offer.

There are the good, but they are massively over shadowed by the bad.


(This is an Alt, and this isnt how EVE should be... but it's all a matter of opinion, isnt it?)



You're welcome to your opinion, but it's a matter of fact that EVE is growing. So we're not stopping it.



After 10 years, this is how Far EVE has gotten? I'd call it stable before I'd call it growing. Any growth it has is nothing compared to what it could have if the community was better.
We like it this way(tm).

CCP seems happy enough with it, too.

Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.

Didn't vote? Then you voted for NulBloc
Apocryphal Noise
The Harpooner's Rest
#16 - 2013-05-02 17:03:37 UTC
EVE would be incredibly, awfully boring if everyone just 'helped' each other. It would be a crappy spacesim filled with mission runnners and miners and absolutely nothing happening. The only reason you can play this game is because bad people are doing bad things. You should try it some time, finding a little bit of your true nature is always enlightening.
Haedonism Bot
People for the Ethical Treatment of Rogue Drones
#17 - 2013-05-02 17:05:51 UTC
John Stuward wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
John Stuward wrote:
It's not easy to pull in new pilots when they are being preyed upon by people who want an easy target, or the null sec blocks that paint such a negative image of EVE. Most of the things you hear about EVE are about all the terrible things we manage to do to each other while under the flag of Anon.

There are not many who wish to be part of the worst society has to offer.

There are the good, but they are massively over shadowed by the bad.


(This is an Alt, and this isnt how EVE should be... but it's all a matter of opinion, isnt it?)



You're welcome to your opinion, but it's a matter of fact that EVE is growing. So we're not stopping it.



After 10 years, this is how Far EVE has gotten? I'd call it stable before I'd call it growing. Any growth it has is nothing compared to what it could have if the community was better.


It's a role playing game, dude. The only online role playing game that I am aware of where you are allowed to play the bad guy. This is the exact thing, and indeed, the only thing that distinguishes EVE from other MMOs, the only thing that makes it so unique and special.

www.everevolutionaryfront.blogspot.com

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John Stuward
Doomheim
#18 - 2013-05-02 17:08:54 UTC
silens vesica wrote:
John Stuward wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
John Stuward wrote:
It's not easy to pull in new pilots when they are being preyed upon by people who want an easy target, or the null sec blocks that paint such a negative image of EVE. Most of the things you hear about EVE are about all the terrible things we manage to do to each other while under the flag of Anon.

There are not many who wish to be part of the worst society has to offer.

There are the good, but they are massively over shadowed by the bad.


(This is an Alt, and this isnt how EVE should be... but it's all a matter of opinion, isnt it?)



You're welcome to your opinion, but it's a matter of fact that EVE is growing. So we're not stopping it.



After 10 years, this is how Far EVE has gotten? I'd call it stable before I'd call it growing. Any growth it has is nothing compared to what it could have if the community was better.
We like it this way(tm).

CCP seems happy enough with it, too.


CCP "Seems" happy. Knowing that the world they created has been infested by the worst society has and they can't do anything about it because it's the majority... they act happy.
Jake Tzestu
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#19 - 2013-05-02 17:09:14 UTC
Is EVE growing or are older players running more multi account setups.

I would like to see a CCP stat for how many of those 500k subs are multi accounts.
Tank Talbot
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#20 - 2013-05-02 17:10:32 UTC
EVE, it's like Frodo went to Mt. Doom and Saron won...
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