Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Not really. There was nothing there to enhance low sec for the people who have spent the most time there. It is all for those who want to gank NPCs or traverse low sec with less chance of a gank.

Also, since CCP has been moving in precisely the opposite direction for low sec (e.g. the change to gate guns), I think this is basically a waste of time.

Here we go again - ganking miners equals being RL scum.

Something to turn Low-Sec into Low-Sec, and not just Null-Sec with some module limitations and some gate guns, and also to liven the place up. Awfully dreary in Low-Sec. These fleets become less common in certain systems depending on certain stimuli.

Mining Fleet
A mining fleet. Nothing special, just a group of miners and a protective escort. If you do criminal things near them, the security escort will engage you. Capsuleer miners can tag along for the security benefits. These fleets only appear in systems that have decent amounts of ore, and generally become less common as system security drops. These fleets also appear in the Outer Ring, regardless of a system's security status. If they come under attack, they will send a distress signal in local that capsuleers can either choose to ignore or choose to help. Helping them against raiders will provide a standings increase and possibly other benefits. Mining fleets occur less often in systems where mining fleets often come under attack. Barges in the fleet will often carry a few drones, though not enough to defend themselves very well. NPC miners will attempt to warp away from conflict if possible, and you must tackle them or they will get away.

Transport Convoys
Convoys carrying materials from Point A to Point B. They always have armed escorts. If they come under attack, they will send a distress signal in local that capsuleers can either choose to ignore or choose to help. Helping them against raiders will provide a standings increase and possibly other benefits.

Bounty Hunter Fleet
A group of bounty hunters. They hunt down players with a high bounty. They mostly spawn in systems that are frequently visited by those with large bounties, and as such could be considered to be actively hunting their targets. They sometimes refrain from attacking if your security status is high enough, but only in systems with a higher security status. In 0.4, for example, they might not attack you if your security status is positive, whereas in 0.1 they will actively attack anyone with a decent bounty. If they succeed in destroying your vessel, part of the bounty goes to them, though slightly less than what a player would get. Many of them have tackling capabilities.

DED Strike Team
DED strike teams are small CONCORD squadrons that actively hunt down those with poor security status. Along with your security status, two other variables are taken into account. The security status of the system you are in, and how often you occupy that particular area. "Area" being either a system, constellation or region. The smaller the area, the more likely they are to find you. If you stay on the run and take to very low security space, DED strike teams will likely never catch up to you. If you squander around a single 0.4 system, however, they are very likely to reach you. They are dangerous, but manageable, similar to factional police in high-sec. If you escape them successfully, they will use smaller, faster ships. If you defend against them successfully but stay in one place, they use slower, more powerful ships. All of them have tackling capabilities. After being destroyed by a DED strike team, no more DED strike teams will target you until you commit another criminal act (mercy for pirates, not that they need it), though your security status remains the same.

Police Patrols
Factional police patrols in low-sec. They certainly aren't as strong as those in high-sec, but they shouldn't be ignored, either. They patrol their own faction's low-sec space, and will attack those recently involved in criminal acts, those with very low security status, and those with very low standings towards that particular faction. If a DED Strike Team, Mining Fleet or another Police Patrol sends out a distress call, they will answer. They are far more likely to patrol systems that directly border high-sec, regardless of security status, but higher system security translates into a larger fleet. They are also more likely to patrol systems that often have criminal acts occurring in them. If a capsuleer commits a criminal act against another capsuleer in low-sec, police patrols may intervene (and warp to the conflict if necessary) depending on the standings and security status of those involved. Some of them have tackling capabilities. A message is transmitted in local when they enter or leave the system, and you can detect them on your on-board scanner. If you want an easy kill, try to strike when police patrols are either gone or pathetic enough to deal with easily, or you can get a high standing with that faction's navy (military corruption... it's such a beautiful thing).

What this does is make low-sec midway between high-sec and null-sec, not a null-sec with a few restrictions and some gate guns. You can still plunder and pillage and avoid the law, but you have to be more careful when going about that. It also provides some opportunity for players who otherwise would be too discouraged to go. So long as you keep your wits about you, you can stay (relatively) safe while not being forced to cloak or hide in station or be good at PVP. If you wander around like it is high-sec? Well, then, eventually you are going to slip up and the pirates will have their way with you in a dark, unguarded metaphorical alley. And if you wander around like it is null-sec? Well, eventually you will be caught in a bad situation, and you will be dragged to your judgement.

+1 but hey, you know I support this :) not sure about actively hunting players but definitely patrols, they could easily be on a sliding scale so in 0.2 or under you'd never see them, as for the faction patrols definitely make things more interesting and only in the space where the militias live, to reflect whos in control (more things to kill to gain lp as well eh)

Another confused themeparker post....

EvE Online is an sandbox mmo-rpg game, not a kindergarten themepark game. In EvE, players are the content. It makes no sense to spend CCP precious time making worthless themepark stuff, things like NPC shouldn't exist in EvE and hopefully will be removed from the game in a near future. Players are the "NPC's".

Do you seriously need to quote his entire 1 page post?

FFS have some courtesy.

1) Nobody is saying remove all NPCs, but that the NPC experience is not a big part of the Eve experience.

2) Dude...space is big, hence the name. I think an argument can be made that you should find empty systems.

3) It takes resources from fixing things that are clearly broken and allocates them to something of dubious value.

1) you are not the only person to play eve, even null seccers say that they sometimes enjoy missioning epic arcs..

2) Low sec is populated space, there should be life deal with it.

3) Immersion is not wasted value not by far. Wake up to this decade.

There are many things in this game that are clearly borken--e.g. technetium. CCP is going to try and fix that with a re-balancing of resources. That will likely require considerable resources. I'm not saying if you want to "immerse yourself in the game, yore stoopid". What I am saying is that leaving something horribly broken for the sake of making a marginal tweak to the immersion experience is probably not wise.