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Need help, i am gonna build a new PC for eve-online and walking in station in the future and need recommendation:

Motherboard – Gigabyte GA Z77,
Processor – Intel Core i5 3330 3Ghz 6MB LGA 1155 BOX,
VGA –NVIDIA GTX 650 1GB DDR 128 BIT,
RAM – 4GB DDR3 V-GEN.

Or

Motherboard – Gigabyte GA 890 Fxa-UD5,
Processor – AMD Phenom Iix4 (980) 3.7Ghz,
VGA – Asus Ati Radeon HD 5770 1GB,
RAM – 4GB DDR3 V-GEN.

Which one is the better if i wanna running 2-3 clients at the same time and at max detail levels (btw im using my television 32” as my monitor)

Or any suggestion?

Thanks all,

The GTX 650 is very roughly about 10% faster than the HD 5770 overall, also the NVIDIA cards are slightly better suited for EVE anyway, so even based on that alone, assuming total cost would not be a factor, I'd say go for that.
With the GTX 650, near-max detail, in fullHD, with 3 clients at the same time, you should get around 60 FPS on each
(actually, potentially over but capped at 60 FPS for the client with focus, and noticeably less for the rest that don't have focus and/or are in the background partially, but that's getting too nitpicky).

The CPUs have the same number of logical cores, so the overall comparison should translate in a per-core comparison as is. The i5 3330 is roughly about 25% faster than the Phenom X4 980, so again, if money is not a big factor, go for that first one - although, to be fair, you won't really see much of a difference in EVE in most cases (and only a small difference when engaged in ultra-heavy-duty fleet combat).

4 GB is sort of getting to be insufficient nowadays, especially if you plan to run up to 3 clients (and assuming your OS will be either Win7 or Win8).
In your stead, I would seriously consider getting AT LEAST 6 GB of RAM, preferably 8 GB or even more.
RAM is fairly cheap these days.

P.S. I upgraded my 2.5+ year old machine from 4 GB to 16 GB, just because. It was a noteworthy improvement, even if I seldom run more than one EVE instance - the extra "unused" RAM is automatically coopted by the OS as cache, which helps a lot since I have a rather slow huge HDD.

As far as motherboards go, honestly, unless you plan on heavily overclocking (which I would advise against) or running multi-video-card configs (which I would also advise against unless you go for 3 or more cards), just about any new one will do just fine as long as it fits the CPU socket - so just get one of the cheapest ones (with the least amounts of bells and whistles).

There's only one exception here : If you go for the intel CPU, if you plan on getting a small SSD later on to use as a HDD cache drive, stay away from B75/Q75 chipsets because they do not support that feature ; you picked a Z77 chipset, which has all possible features (and is therefore usually a bit more expensive).

Thanks Akita T,

Hey Concurssi Mellenar, Im planning to build my own computer. My Budget around 600 USD (just for CPU only). and I got that 2 setups from my friends.

Do u have other suggestion?

I have 2 threads, because i don't know which category its.

CPU ( case, motherboard, processor, vga, ram, hdd, dvd rom, etc) Sorry for that (monitor, keyboard and mouse not included)

Im from indonesia (jakarta), and they dont have a website or anything, so i have to visit store by store to bought the parts...but the price they follow USD price +- 5%. and they dont use a tax Lucky in here.

HDD 500GB its enough

The purpose I build this computer only for play eve online and star trek online....as long i can play eve without problem (max detail level) and for future walking in station its should be ok. And i planning to use win7.

For working i use my other computer (iMac).

Thankz for helping me.

So, basically your budget is 600-620 USD ~= 5.8-6 mil rupiah for the box alone... we can surely fit a decent machine in that budget.

Found a reference thread with worldwide listings of PC parts suppliers
( http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/358998-31-worldwide-online-computer-parts-stores)
and there were 3 listed sites for Indonesia:
http://www.bhinneka.com
http://www.rakitan.com
http://www.enterkomputer.com

Comparing just the first CPU you listed (i5 3330), the prices on those sites are 1.99m, 1.76m, and 1.75m, respectively, whereas the price on Newegg USA converted into rupiah would be ~1.85m.
Comparing for a 1GB DDR5 ASUS GTX 650 Ti, the prices are 1.92m, 1.71m, and 1.71m, respectively, whereas the price on Newegg USA converted into rupiah would be ~1.36m (say WHAT?!?)

Is there some form of sales tax or VAT the latter two sites might not be listing but I should take into account, or is that first site really that much more expensive ?
And any idea what's up with the video card prices ?

Welcome to Indonesia :P

Indonesia price its crazy (ex u bought 1 Yamaha YZF R6 in indonesia, in US u can get 2 bikes yamaha YZF R6 at the same amount u pay in indonesia) Its crazy

Bhinneka its a biggest shop reseller (so they price is so expensive)
Rakitan and enterkomputer (they shop in Mangga Dua shopping Center, in this mall almost all shops selling komputer....so the price is competitive....that why i have to visit shop by shop to get the lowest price)

Usually i use to calculate the budget using bhinneka price, so when im bought, im not overbudget.

mmm with this budget u can help me build a decent machine....nice, btw thankz alot to help me

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but my budget 600USD its enough to build them? If enough then i will wait