Science & Industry

The time is nigh for an Ice Interdiction.

Have your -10 alt in system, log it off there. Get a shitload of catalysts on a Orca alt. Get a good warp in point. Popppp. Concord kills your Catalyst, but your pod is still like new. No problem at all, if you have 100 new catalysts waiting in station, on your alt account. Do this for a week. Then start extorcating people.
We come again to the "why?" problem. Problem coming in conflict with miner's greed, and the fact you will get killed you pay or not. With any real problem for the griefer. Because there won't be a single one. There will be all griefers youc an imagine, with their mothers and grandma's.
Who will hit this sh*t? Nullsec will handle it to the end. What about WH players?
Ofc, there will be ways to avoid this inutile ****. I say inutile because this won't stop the bots, for real. And avoiding means not is also lucrative anymore.
Whole thing is more complicated that the joy to see people's easy incomes die and your incomes rise. Ofc, not at first look, and not in the first week.
I must insist, what they did is called "cheating". I'm shure some of you understand why i say that.

dafuq?

I think it is reasonable that some changes had to be made to improve industrial capabilities & resources for the nul-sec community. And that is coming from a high-sec resident such as myself. Whether the already announced changes and the proposed other ideas such as decreasing high-sec refining rates & increasing high-sec NPC manufacturing costs/decreasing high-sec NPC station manufacturing capability are good for New Eden remains to be seen.

To be honest the moral to be drawn from these changes is that the CSM now has teeth and EVERYONE that didn't get off their ****, get organised, & place votes at the CSM 8 elections can hold themselves alone to blame for everything that goes wrong. Admittedly the wormhole community did get organised pre CSM 7 and were successful in getting a voice on that year's CSM and will now receive a little love in the forthcoming changes to POS hangers etc. Also the Incursion community formed a coordinated response during the CSM 8 elections and now have their chosen candidate, Ripard Teg, on the CSM. But still the majority or the power on the CSM lies with the nul-centric 'Nul is the "real" game' candidates.

I haven't looked up the details of all the successful candidates for CSM 8 yet but at a glance I didn't recognise most of the names.I was expecting Steve of Fuzzworks fame to be elected to represent the 'third party' developers etc but it wasn't to be. It would have been great if the FW community got organised, put aside their racial differences temporarily, and voted for one candidate to represent them too. Maybe they did - I don't know yet.

Please everyone. Release yourself from your 'real life' apathetic opinions of the voting process and make sure you place a vote with all your accounts at next years CSM elections. You will be on the back foot but the CSM will still have teeth and you can make changes for your communitie/s . In 'real life' I acknowledge that placing a vote can, and may actually be, a futile act but with the CSM in New Eden this is not the case.

It's a call to arms !

But surely once the ice becomes less than infinite it will be much harder to actually bot - if there is no ice in the ysstem for hours at a time what will the bots do?

mine ore.

No, no, don't be ridiculous. Bots will be rendered completely impotent by this change. Nobody could ever figure out how to program a bot to load a saved fitting.

Probably not actually faster for a bot, but a good option if you're rigging for yield.

Current ratting bots can tell if there are rats on overview, and warp when there isn't. So I don't see that mining bots won't be able to do the same.

However, they will have to sit somewhere in space and scan for a new anom regularly. Could do it from a POS, which would be smart. They could log out for 4 hours, log in, scan, and then decide what to do next.

I don't see any changes that will hurt ice bots' functionality. But their isk/hr ratio is about to die a cold icelandic death.

Yes, we're aware of that.

It's not supposed to affect bots, so what point you're attempting to make remains to be seen.