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cheese monkey
NuKeDD
NuKeDD.
#1 - 2013-05-01 11:44:46 UTC
So you can buy back sec status for isk (and low sec tags)

This is a bad idea. Just terrible.

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ACE McFACE
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2013-05-01 11:47:58 UTC
Why? Or is saying that its terrible reason enough?

Now, more than ever, we need a dislike button.
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#3 - 2013-05-01 11:51:06 UTC
They're not going to magically appear on the market, you know?

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cheese monkey
NuKeDD
NuKeDD.
#4 - 2013-05-01 11:51:38 UTC
ACE McFACE wrote:
Why? Or is saying that its terrible reason enough?



Saying that it is terrible is enough. Think about it.

I mean, it's almost game breakingly bad.

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Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
#5 - 2013-05-01 12:00:41 UTC
And you know why the OP thinks it's bad? Because all those he has attacked and annoyed in the past will be able to buy back their sec status after ganking him. Remember me monkey? Cause I sure remember you... Blink
admiral root
Red Galaxy
#6 - 2013-05-01 12:05:32 UTC
cheese monkey wrote:
ACE McFACE wrote:
Why? Or is saying that its terrible reason enough?



Saying that it is terrible is enough. Think about it.

I mean, it's almost game breakingly bad.


If it leads to an increase in ships asploding it certainly won't be bad for miners, builders or gankers.

No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff
Manny Moons
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2013-05-01 12:10:36 UTC
cheese monkey wrote:
Saying that it is terrible is enough. Think about it.

I mean, it's almost game breakingly bad.

You could always buy sec status. This change just makes it a little more obvious.
Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#8 - 2013-05-01 12:17:32 UTC
It is always best approach to whine instead of figuring out how to take advantage of changes.

I definitely hope belts in Molden Heath will burn again because of Tags4Sec.

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Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2013-05-01 12:20:13 UTC
You're terrible.

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Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2013-05-01 12:22:15 UTC
marmite is terrible

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RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#11 - 2013-05-01 12:39:13 UTC
cheese monkey wrote:
ACE McFACE wrote:
Why? Or is saying that its terrible reason enough?



Saying that it is terrible is enough. Think about it.

I mean, it's almost game breakingly bad.


Yeah, I still don't see a problem. Why do you think it would be "almost game breakingly bad"?

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
#12 - 2013-05-01 12:47:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Vaju Enki
It's a needed change, lowsec pvp belts will be on fire again.

Also you can only buy tags that someone else got from a lowsec belt, they are not created from thin air. It's a good element for conflict in lowsec.

The Tears Must Flow
Drunken Bum
#13 - 2013-05-01 13:20:01 UTC
I gank indiscriminately. Gankers, miners, industrialists, women, children, small animals. I gank everything in high sec just for something to shoot at when there's not enough action in my wormhole. I use throw away trial accounts. Their sec status racks up, i make another one. This tag change isn't going to affect me at all. Same goes for most gankers.
Its amazing how little people know about how this game works... even if I were to use my main account to gank and drive its sec down, it still wouldn't be that big of an issue. Just a minor annoyance.

After the patch we're giving the market some gentle supply restriction, like tying one wrist to the bedpost loosely with soft silk rope. Just enough to make things a bit more exciting for the market, not enough to make a safeword necessary.  -Fozzie
Noriko Mai
#14 - 2013-05-01 13:23:19 UTC
Drunken Bum wrote:
[..] I use throw away trial accounts. Their sec status racks up, i make another one. [..]

This is not allowed and agains the EULA/TOS iirc.

"Meh.." - Albert Einstein
Ruskarn Andedare
Lion Investments
#15 - 2013-05-01 13:27:16 UTC
Noriko Mai wrote:
Drunken Bum wrote:
[..] I use throw away trial accounts. Their sec status racks up, i make another one. [..]

This is not allowed and agains the EULA/TOS iirc.


are you sure?

biomassing the char is not allowed - letting the account lapse and starting another one ...
Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#16 - 2013-05-01 13:34:26 UTC
Ruskarn Andedare wrote:
Noriko Mai wrote:
Drunken Bum wrote:
[..] I use throw away trial accounts. Their sec status racks up, i make another one. [..]

This is not allowed and agains the EULA/TOS iirc.


are you sure?

biomassing the char is not allowed - letting the account lapse and starting another one ...

if biomassing the character was not allowed, which is on a paid account, do you think ccp would allow unpaid trials to do this?
Bi-Mi Lansatha
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2013-05-01 13:52:55 UTC
Drunken Bum wrote:
I gank indiscriminately. Gankers, miners, industrialists, women, children, small animals. I gank everything in high sec just for something to shoot at when there's not enough action in my wormhole. I use throw away trial accounts. Their sec status racks up, i make another one. This tag change isn't going to affect me at all. Same goes for most gankers.
Its amazing how little people know about how this game works... even if I were to use my main account to gank and drive its sec down, it still wouldn't be that big of an issue. Just a minor annoyance.
I like you attitude on ganking. Big smile

As for this, "...I use throw away trial accounts. Their sec status racks up, i make another one...". Everyone knows this, but CCP pretends not to.
Turgesson
Gorillaz In The Mist
#18 - 2013-05-01 14:14:00 UTC
Schmata Bastanold wrote:
It is always best approach to whine instead of figuring out how to take advantage of changes.

I definitely hope belts in Molden Heath will burn again because of Tags4Sec.



Considering security status washing is going to be much faster and easier than it is now I seriously doubt anyone will really care about the tags. (they're changing the ss gain tick from 15 minutes per system to 5 minutes no matter where you are)

I hope I'm wrong but the tag ratting seems like the new reason to get in a cloaky and go look for the "good" rats avoiding all fights along the way. If they modified the damn statics and changed the drops to tags then we would have an interesting new thing to play with but they don't listen too good. They don't want farming unless you move around a bit or orbit a FW thingy?



Some of the other stuff they're doing will bring targets in the short term until all the farming "explorers" get sick of being assploded while trying to play the new mini-games for poop loot in low since the ones in high sec will be overrun with alts, idiots and the Jun Horde of gankers. I'm almost allowed back in high sec after years and can't wait to explode...err I mean explore all these new awesome sites....screw the tags let the shitfit farmers farm so we can get buy backs on the cheap. Evil
Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#19 - 2013-05-01 14:19:37 UTC
Turgesson wrote:
Considering security status washing is going to be much faster and easier than it is now I seriously doubt anyone will really care about the tags. (they're changing the ss gain tick from 15 minutes per system to 5 minutes no matter where you are)

They also mentioned reducing rat sec gains so sec gain per hour is about the same.
Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#20 - 2013-05-01 14:31:43 UTC
Benny Ohu wrote:
Turgesson wrote:
Considering security status washing is going to be much faster and easier than it is now I seriously doubt anyone will really care about the tags. (they're changing the ss gain tick from 15 minutes per system to 5 minutes no matter where you are)

They also mentioned reducing rat sec gains so sec gain per hour is about the same.

I was unsure I'd remembered this properly so I checked the vid anyway

http://www.twitch.tv/ccp/c/2204044

42 minutes in, a guy with a striped shirt asks the question
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