Intergalactic Summit

Not surprisingly, no-one here has anything solid and all we offer are speculation going back and forth with loads of assumptions and jumping to conclusions.

I wonder, is it possible that we can keep doing our things and let this topic be until some concrete information is actually released? By now about anything that can possibly be said about the topic has been voiced, I would think the subject is rather depleted.

The threats were made by, well... terrorists not official government spokespersons. The Republic, obviously, has no control over these extremists or, what they choose to say.

From a purely Federation legal standpoint. The rest of the cluster hasn't been sucked into your cultural void just yet.


The terrorist threats are hardly Sanmatar Shakor's fault.

Though he might be the worst diplomat in the cluster what with sending warships to his ally's borders.

Huh, what? Just how do you figure this and, more importantly, where's the data to back up this assertion? Unless you can substantiate this with hard data from an authoritative source we should consider it no more than your opinion based on exactly zero objective facts.

I really thought better of you based on your journalistic background but, it seems that you're just another in a long line of Gallentean bigots who instead of seeing us as equals and valued allies see us as misguided juveniles incapable of handling our affairs.

Oh, that's rich. As if the Federation doesn't have its own splinter groups that it can't keep a leash on. Every nation has them.

And speaking as a "vagabond," the majority of us don't do anything requiring any justice system to get involved. Being a vagabond has nothing to do with terrorists or the threats that those terrorist groups made.



Complete and utter bull. There was absolutely no justification for the condescension with which your Court spoke to us, nor the insults they threw at the Tribes, except that they -wanted- to cause an international incident. They merely reinforced what we've been seeing from the Federation all along, that they don't give the slightest damn about their allies, or even those of the Tribes who claim Federation citizenship.



So the fact that the threats were reported in the same news article means they're not separated from the opinions and methodology of the Republic? Apparently you're less literate than we "primitive Tribals" are.

The only ones looking silly are the one behaving silly.

I am afraid that I do not understand your reasoning, but at least your answer was something else than personal attacks, and it is appreciated. I do not usually take the time to answer to personal attacks and useless, nonconstructive arguments, but as far as I am concerned, I am guilty of doing so with Ms Rella quite often, which is weird in itself. For Ms Surionen, though, it is exactly because I hold her in good esteem that I do so.



Thank you.

Who said anything about deflection? It's impossible to avoid an incident once one has already been caused. It's like building a flood wall after the tide has hit land.



And the insults your people have made calling the Supreme Court incapable of delivering justice? I suppose those are merely swept under the rug.

What you are failing to grasp is the Republic has it's rules and ways of doing things, the Federation has theirs. This is an incident that happened in the Federation's proverbial house, it is their jurisdiction and their right to clean up. They aren't expecting the Republic to cater to anything because the Federation are not making any demands.

Well, other than to tell the RSS fleet to turn around go back to Republic space. You don't get to tell other people what to do in their land, something I've seen many Minmatar proclaim quite verbally about at any risk of Federal influence in Republic domestic matters. You simply cannot have it both ways, the sooner you realise this the better.

Ah, I've just returned from the Egonics Soundscape conference, picked up a rather nasty viral while I was out there and the nanites are taking a couple of days to fix things. I've time to smack about a few logical fallacies.

Do I really need to bring this up?



As for your Justice Department...





It's not some secret that there are a lot of major issues with criminal organizations in the Republic. The Republic has quite a lot to worry about with these groups, especially the Angel Cartel. Of course the Gallente Federation has our own degenerate factions, the Cartel has been keeping Republic hands full with their numerous and widespread operations. Also, the cartel is only part of the equation, there are plenty of other groups. Plus, considering that the Justice Department appears more concerned with supporting rebels (a very worthy cause I might add) than dealing with crime, there is certainly a backlog.

I see the Minmatar as equals and our alliance with them has been very beneficial. How could I be a bigot when at least half of my co-workers and allies out in this galaxy are Minmatar, hell I even fly Minmatar frigates much more than the frigates of my own nation. The main actor in a recent sketch of mine was Minmatar as well, he even suggested putting that short bit into the show and was willing to throw his own (and rather expensive) shoes at me! There are prejudiced and bigoted people here in the Federation, and I can say I'm not one of them, I'm actually slightly offended by such a remark.

As a journalist, I try to point out inaccuracies, hypocrisies and just plain incorrect information and that is merely what I am doing here.

The big issue I have right now are the constant and rather fruitless accusations of the Federation having a disrespect for their Republic allies, yet the actions of the Republic as of late have indicated that the pot is calling the kettle black.



We all have renegade factions that tend to run astray, though none of them cause as much trouble as groups such as the Angel Cartel to the Republic who's operations are going virtually unchecked.



Alright now you're starting to make me chuckle. Where have we insulted the Tribes exactly? If a simply saying "no" is considered an insult in Minmatar culture then we might be getting somewhere. A

Also, what would we possibly have to gain from causing an international incident with our own allies nonetheless? Next your going to tell me that Roden somehow forced Shakor to have the RSS attempt a raid in order to make the Republic look bad.

No, it has nothing to do with the article. What it shows is that there is a lot of anti-Gallente sentiment in the Republic and it appears the government at the very least doesn't care that some of their people are threatening to kill citizens from an allied country. You could even argue that they would support Gallente bloodshed as the RSS fleet came heavily armed and on the verge of opening fire on our border patrols. I personally don't believe it as there is no real evidence to support that, though there isn't any evidence against it and as such it remains a possibility.

What insults? Their “assessment” was simply based on the Tribal Entities actions.