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Silent Brandon
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-04-30 04:41:33 UTC
I don't find it right that while I am in a plex in order not to lose security status I have to wait for a neutral to engage first. Why should we loss sec status defending ourselves. I think CCP needs to change it to where a neutral automatically goes suspect once he or she activates the gate to a faction warfare complex. This way we don't lose standings killing them.
Taoist Dragon
Okata Syndicate
#2 - 2013-04-30 04:53:32 UTC
Silent Brandon wrote:
I don't find it right that while I am in a plex in order not to lose security status I have to wait for a neutral to engage first. Why should we loss sec status defending ourselves. I think CCP needs to change it to where a neutral automatically goes suspect once he or she activates the gate to a faction warfare complex. This way we don't lose standings killing them.


Oh harden up!


If you engage a neutral first then YOU are commiting a crime not him. Making neutrals suspect upon entering plex's is just pussy's way out. If CCP does this then they are bunch of Pussies as well!

Seriously you are in low sec! the back alleys of the lower end of the **** side of town. HTFU or die.

Simple really. Twisted

That is the Way, the Tao.

Balance is everything.
Sinooko
Tharumec
Gespenster Kompanie
#3 - 2013-04-30 05:13:03 UTC
I agree with OP, These plexes are pretty much the sovereign territory of the empires, it makes sense that a neutral would go flashy upon entry.

Also having to grind back sec status because we get more fights out of pies than squids is fail.
Taoist Dragon
Okata Syndicate
#4 - 2013-04-30 05:18:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Taoist Dragon
Sinooko wrote:
I agree with OP, These plexes are pretty much the sovereign territory of the empires, it makes sense that a neutral would go flashy upon entry.

Also having to grind back sec status because we get more fights out of pies than squids is fail.


Bollocks.

Are you trying to become the biggest lowsec carebears ever! if you don't want to fight neutrals warp-the-F**K-out!!

You lot make me ashamed to be a FW player. This is LOW sec. next you'll be asking for the faction navy to attack anyone who ganks someone in low sec as well.

HTFU wimps!

edit: 'Aw poor me having to grind sec up!' QQ more why don't you.

That is the Way, the Tao.

Balance is everything.
Ritsum
Perkone
Caldari State
#5 - 2013-04-30 05:29:22 UTC
Silent Brandon wrote:
I don't find it right that while I am in a plex in order not to lose security status I have to wait for a neutral to engage first. Why should we loss sec status defending ourselves. I think CCP needs to change it to where a neutral automatically goes suspect once he or she activates the gate to a faction warfare complex. This way we don't lose standings killing them.



I don't see why ccp needs to change the game when it is not broken. If you are not willing to lose Sec Status I don't think pvp is the right thing for you.

FW plexes are good places for everyone to find a fight so nuet's will always be present so either man up and engage first or just wait for them to engage which should not take long since they are there for a fight >.>

Play EvE how you want to play it and do not let others dictate how you play. Evolve your playstyle to protect yourself from others! Even in "PVE", "PVP" is there, lurking in the shadows.
Silent Brandon
State War Academy
Caldari State
#6 - 2013-04-30 05:34:23 UTC
I don't mind pvp it's just ridiculous that I get penalized for killing a pirate.
Ritsum
Perkone
Caldari State
#7 - 2013-04-30 06:06:38 UTC
Silent Brandon wrote:
I don't mind pvp it's just ridiculous that I get penalized for killing a pirate.


um yeah.... A Pirate will most likely engage first or already is -5 meaning there is no penalty... No idea why you cannot grasp the concept... If they are neutral just let them engage you first and there is no problem...

Play EvE how you want to play it and do not let others dictate how you play. Evolve your playstyle to protect yourself from others! Even in "PVE", "PVP" is there, lurking in the shadows.
Taoist Dragon
Okata Syndicate
#8 - 2013-04-30 06:10:44 UTC
Silent Brandon wrote:
I don't mind pvp it's just ridiculous that I get penalized for killing a pirate.


what penalty? Most pirates are flashy red so you can kill them whenever you feel like it without penalty.

If they are a non flashy pirate then they work hard keeping their sec high and probably put more work into it that you do by engaging them first.

That is the Way, the Tao.

Balance is everything.
Duke Aumer
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2013-04-30 09:05:51 UTC
Silent Brandon wrote:
I don't mind pvp it's just ridiculous that I get penalized for killing a character who has yet to do anything criminal, but makes me very nervous while I'm peacefully farming in dangerous space.

Fixed that for you.

Also, while we're on the subject of changes to game mechanics for characters inside plexes, can we make it so you can't cloak inside them? That'd be super dooper!
Tah'ris Khlador
Space Ghosts.
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#10 - 2013-04-30 13:50:40 UTC
Duke Aumer wrote:
Silent Brandon wrote:
I don't mind pvp it's just ridiculous that I get penalized for killing a character who has yet to do anything criminal, but makes me very nervous while I'm peacefully farming in dangerous space.

Fixed that for you.

Also, while we're on the subject of changes to game mechanics for characters inside plexes, can we make it so you can't cloak inside them? That'd be super dooper!


But then I couldn't use my cloaky, warp core stabbed, alts to farm the Plexes. That just wouldn't do!

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Damay Aprionati
Chroma Corp
Prismatic Legion
#11 - 2013-04-30 17:30:55 UTC
But but... If I have to wait for them to engage first then I can't use my quadruple td faction mwd super condor on them because they'd never fight me. :(

Dead men can't pay.
Minmatar Citizen160812
The LGBT Last Supper
#12 - 2013-04-30 20:16:27 UTC
Could I just have free daily LP without joining a faction? I don't feel like driving a cloaky farm car around Big Ben for 3 hours but would like the money anyway.
Xolve
State War Academy
Caldari State
#13 - 2013-04-30 21:41:01 UTC
I'm sure you'd find the Warfare an Tactics subforum has a dozen or so topics on this subject already. This subforum hwever, is for -10 folks to make fun of empire PVP types, hope this helps.
Sishen Gzi
Hellion Support Services
#14 - 2013-05-01 02:43:19 UTC
I only go into losec plexes to give people flowers
Defying
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2013-05-02 16:55:21 UTC
Silent Brandon wrote:
I don't find it right that while I am in a plex in order not to lose security status I have to wait for a neutral to engage first. Why should we loss sec status defending ourselves. I think CCP needs to change it to where a neutral automatically goes suspect once he or she activates the gate to a faction warfare complex. This way we don't lose standings killing them.



Villore Accords, Hmm I thought you guys were made from sterner stuff.....