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CCP: I want to share my hangar with my other accout!

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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#21 - 2013-04-30 20:17:53 UTC
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Tchulen
Trumpets and Bookmarks
#22 - 2013-05-01 08:04:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Tchulen
Ruze wrote:
You make great points, even if you get my name wrong Lol

Please accept my apologies for that! Bit rude, getting your name wrong Oops

Ruze wrote:
First, I am a very strong supporter of keeping current mechanics in play whenever possible. What I'm suggesting does not change existing mechanics at all. It's an entirely new code structure added to supplement current mechanics.

This game is hard enough to learn without having the very foundation of what you know pulled out from under you every expansion.

To a point. If you introduce a new permissions system it will need to be integrated with the current system in some way. If it isn't they would need to upkeep two distinct permissions systems for the game which is not a good idea. Also, if they didn't people would complain about not having the new functionality on old systems. Mind you, this is just a guess. If I'm wrong and it would be inconsiderable dev time my objections would be substantially reduced.

Ruze wrote:
So they add this new mechanic of permission management to new modules/services. Specifically in station services, this would still be taxable and an isk sink. Very much so, if you're trying to get a public hangar in Jita 4-4, for example. Much like the current office system, the more Public Hangars are used, the more the price of renting would go up.

But on a side note, I wasn't specifically shooting the idea at sharing between accounts. To me, this would work on a lot of levels between other groups. BPO rental. Marketing and selling fully fit ships. As a store front. Between real life friends. Between corp spies. Etc.

Many of the people I used to play with, I now play with on different time zones (used to be up all night, have a lot of aussie and friends from the uk). Now we see each other in passing or via evemail. This would allow me to share equipment much as I do info through evemail mailing lists, etc.


I certainly have less objections to renting a shared hanger in a station than I do to just being able to share your own hangers between characters. As you say, there could be a fairly hefty isk sink there (which I think would be a good thing) and it probably wouldn't take as much dev time as making the current personal hangers share-able.
Castelo Selva
OS GUERRAS
Brave United
#23 - 2013-05-02 10:43:53 UTC
Bump. To the fist page again.

Let´s keep the discursion roling.

I still want a way to shame my hangar, even if it was trough a rented public hangar, like Ruze proposed. And of course, if CCP embrace my suggestion, 1 plex to be able to share my hangar between the characters I own.

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Arthur Trueshot
Four Pillar Production
#24 - 2013-06-21 08:02:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Arthur Trueshot
Well new expansion is out and this feature is not in it. That's why i would like to manifest my support for this.

I would like to compare it to the chat channels
1. Local: well you can store stuff in space if you want
2. Corporate : You have the corporate hangars
3. Alliance : people are asking for alliance hangars as well
4. Chat channels (thats what we are asking for): those channel where you can allow/block any players in order to make people meet around a common goal/idea etc. I actually couldn't imagine eve without those channels, you have a lot of community who are working only because of those. I even use those to talk to myself, meaning share something like stations etc. between my accounts and having my bookmarks in the motd.

so what i am asking for would be a way to share a reasonable amount of assets in 1 location with a group of toons/player.

I don't know the best way to make something like this happen but the "rented shared hangar" could be a nice way to do it. An other way could be to "anchor" a special type of container inside your personal hangar. If you don't pay the fee for the container it gets repackaged and the items inside drop in to the personal hangar of the character who "anchored" it.

i am less fan of it but something else could be the possibility to make private contracts but to a list of people and not only 1 person.

PS: if i could have chosen between this and the new pod animation i would have chosen this feature.
Ruze
Next Stage Initiative
#25 - 2013-06-21 10:22:38 UTC
I still support a form of shared, limited hangar for rent in stations.

If you're driven to threaten others with harm or violence because of what they do in game, you can't separate fantasy from reality. That "griefer/thief" is probably more sane than you are. How screwed up is that?
Castelo Selva
OS GUERRAS
Brave United
#26 - 2013-06-21 11:00:32 UTC
Yeah, some kind of hangar station renting will be o good solution. It does not demand changes at accounting management and use the tools that already exist in game (as corporation hangars use it).
The main question are quantities per station. If there are so few, they will be much expensive and people will not use it. I think CCP will find some ballance here.
After all, I just want to get some shared hangar to utilize with my chars, and if possible to set permissions, to use it with my friends (which are not in the same corporation).

Castelo

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Solutio Letum
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2013-06-21 13:40:47 UTC
Theia Matova wrote:
Multiboxing is already buffed too much. We do not need feature that makes it more easier.

There are many activities in eve that get much easier by having 2nd account because eve is too easy game to be controlled. Multiaccounts make bad division between people and risk eve getting more fresh blood because you could say that certain activities you should own second account. For example wormhole life gets more easier when you have scout that you can park on wormhole. This is quite mandatory in mid/low grade wormholes because the reward is not balanced with the risk.

I say CCP should open their eyes and try make multi accounting less favorable and making the game more social that they claim. The truth is that probably half or more of the logged on chracters in eve are alts making the real active players not so many.

+ new players
- boo multiaccounts


Wait?.... paying 3 times more is buffed to much?
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#28 - 2013-06-21 15:43:50 UTC
The downside of this idea is that the desire to share hanger space is one of the driving reasons for people to take the leap and form a corporation with their buddies/alts, and "Rental Hanger's" removes this reason.

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Arthur Trueshot
Four Pillar Production
#29 - 2013-06-21 20:06:04 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
The downside of this idea is that the desire to share hanger space is one of the driving reasons for people to take the leap and form a corporation with their buddies/alts, and "Rental Hanger's" removes this reason.


Well its like with the chat channels, its not because you are in a corp with friends, that all your friends/toons are in that corp.
Castelo Selva
OS GUERRAS
Brave United
#30 - 2013-07-01 14:08:26 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
The downside of this idea is that the desire to share hanger space is one of the driving reasons for people to take the leap and form a corporation with their buddies/alts, and "Rental Hanger's" removes this reason.


Well, I agree that NPC Corps versus Player Corps are a big concern for CCP.
It could be addressed by allowing only Player Corporation to be able to rent a public hangar at Stations.
A public rented hangar are a nice addiction to the sand box, and as already stated before, not all my friends are at the some corporation. Some of them are at others player Corps that are blue to me and I like to share some ship / modules with them.

Castelo

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Sura Sadiva
Entropic Tactical Crew
#31 - 2013-07-01 15:52:35 UTC
it's a good idea.
Should be the option to rent a rentable hangar service or station container sharable among specified characters. Nothing too sophisticated, just the option to add individual access permissions to it.
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